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#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:26:47 PM(UTC)
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Dear ******,

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PayPal as a regulated financial services company is required under law to
comply with rules and regulations as set forth by the Office of Foreign
Assets Control (OFAC). PayPal is committed to complying with and meeting
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It has come to our attention that you're advertising PayPal as a method of
payment for the sale of items of Iranian origin, specifically
Iranian/Persian rugs. Please remove all items of Iranian origin from your
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 6:10:14 PM(UTC)
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surprising. not too pleasant for business either.... do you have a big ebay store? do you plan on writing a response?
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#3 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 4:26:15 AM(UTC)
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bukhara

From your location tag it says Luxenbourg? I'd imagine the message they sent was in response to the US embargo on Iran? If so surely this doesn't effect you unless shipping direct to the US from Iran? Likewise if you own a rug already there's no way they can stop you selling it... the embargo is on exports directly from Iran, not on selling goods that were made there.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:36:40 AM(UTC)
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Actually, the embargo prohibits Iranian goods from anywhere in the world from entering the US.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:44:31 AM(UTC)
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Hmm.

Would a 17th century Isfahan that has been in an Austrian aristocratic family for centuries fall under the embargo? A 19th century Bidjar that I inherited from my Great-Grand aunt who lived in Germany and whose ancestors bought it before 1900? (No such look, of course, inheritage-wise, just an example.) This would sound crazy.
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#6 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 5:23:43 AM(UTC)
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Shereen wrote:
Hmm.

Would a 17th century Isfahan that has been in an Austrian aristocratic family for centuries fall under the embargo? A 19th century Bidjar that I inherited from my Great-Grand aunt who lived in Germany and whose ancestors bought it before 1900? (No such look, of course, inheritage-wise, just an example.) This would sound crazy.



My point exactly; legally would they have a leg to stand on?

As so often happens it looks like the US government are putting barriers in place that will do nothing to deter the leaders and government of Iran, this will only hurt the innocent workers as well as US rug dealers and probably rug dealers around the world, prices will shoot up for sourcing rugs in other countries as a result of the embargo.
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#7 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 5:49:52 AM(UTC)
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I wonder what will happen if the carpet in the documents identified as Chinese and in fact is an Iranian?
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#8 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 5:53:50 AM(UTC)
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From ebay website:

Various U.S. agencies have restrictions in place that regulate or ban all trade with certain countries. A complete list of countries is listed in the guidelines below.

Federal agencies also ban or regulate trade between people in the U.S. and certain organizations, businesses, and individuals. eBay doesn’t allow the sale of embargoed (restricted) items from or to those countries, organizations, businesses, or individuals.

Under U.S. law, buying or selling certain items made in restricted countries may not be lawful, depending on the nature of the item, when it was manufactured, and when it left that specific country. Generally, items from restricted countries may be sold only if they’re considered to be informational, pre-embargo, or licensed.
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#9 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 1:23:58 PM(UTC)
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bukhara wrote:
I wonder what will happen if the carpet in the documents identified as Chinese and in fact is an Iranian?


Yes, one starts wondering. Then there's being identified as Pakistani or Indian or Turkish, too.
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#10 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 1:29:22 PM(UTC)
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bukhara wrote:
From ebay website:

Under U.S. law, buying or selling certain items made in restricted countries may not be lawful, depending on the nature of the item, when it was manufactured, and when it left that specific country. Generally, items from restricted countries may be sold only if they’re considered to be informational, pre-embargo, or licensed.



Pre-embargo: that is helpful regarding antique rugs.

Still leaves in place the fact of innocent workers suffering rather than there being any impact on the government. In a country reigned by fear, the people will not likely rise up because of a trade embargo. Rather, the embargo will increase their identification with their country, and hence more probably with their cultural and religious identity, and hence more probably with their leaders.

If this remark is too political, please delete. (RugPro or Cloudband)
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