Hold on, now......check out below. for some reason I like this little error. Assuming it is unique within the entire stripe and not some repeating pattern. What does this mean? Now I really wish the red were in my new red range.

YES!!! IT IS THE SAME RUG!!! same little error I only NOW see, same blotches on the bottom Pro caught!!!!
http://forum.rugrag.com/yaf_postst312_Reiteration-Attraction.aspx

But.....the reason I did not get it until just now.....is look at the price difference!!!!! Initially, they posted it at over $1100......and nowwwwww.....it's down to what you see!!!!! UNDER HALF THAT????

And yes, Pro also din think it was that old!

Can U believe this you know what?????? I mean CAN YOU?

Why is this so hard, buying a rug?????? Why should you have to exhaust yourself to spend yr hard earned money????? Why can't people Keep it REAL???????????? I guess it's hardcause I don't have 20K to spend, and the possible chincanery factor just wears you down.

Meanwhile, like a total cretin, I emailed them AGAIN.....cause I see from the first thread, I already HAD. I wonder if I asked same questions???? OMG.

I belong in a padded room now.
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OK, thank God I pasted their response to my initial mail. Pro pointed out with contempt that the base being in good condition "for its age" was a red flag. I did, in fact just send almost the same questions. Because I am no longer a WELL PERSON, DO U HEAR ME?

Now what I iwll do is employ their initial response, write them again, tell them I see it's the same damn rug and ask more specific questions: what yu you mean re the base and for its age? iS THE BASE BRITTLE AND DRY OR IS IT NOT? thennnnnn.....I am going to ask WHAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS FIRE SALE ON THIS RUG? 15% off I could get, but cutting yr starting bid OVER FIFTY PERCENT??????

I will say, they have 100% feedback.

Please help me, I don feel good.

Yeah, big deal....THIS IS THE SAME RUG, DO YOU GET THAT? Before, 1,100 starting "bid"....now $450??????????

This is the item you picked up on the blotches on underside....this is the one you pointed out the euphemistic of the base is good for its age being a trap!!

I am LOOPING from rug LOOPINESS NOW!!!!

Now that it's down to $450 plus 99 shipping, do you think it is now worth my following up with determination to get more data? Or do I have that backwards?????

But tell me, aren't those two, consecutive yellow flowers just ADORABLE????????? So NOT SOFTWARE?????

Update:

Here is reply from the vendor below. Can someone clear, with unmelted brain & some perspective assess this, please? I am very confused: I kinda knew they would Not answer the why did U reduce the starting bid by giant percentage? question. They also did not address the BLOTCHES. But I am V tired of having to edit what ought be NORMA and tap dancing, Keep it Real. Games are exhausting. At least, for me.

Dear ariesjill,

the rug pile is evenly all over the rug. there is no low or wear area. no repair or needs for repair. the binding is intact and the frienges are even. no dry foundation. kpsi is approximately 120-140. the rug is 70 yrs old +/- 20 years


- rugandroll
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OK hold it; they now say 20 year window give or take. If we add 20 to their stated circa, 1920s.....that would mean old, but mot before big war. Bet it was NOT, in fact, made before Big War. What does that change?

My feeling is, sarouks and their cousins, the Lilihans.....made before Big War were much better than at any time thereafter. Is this right? Or is it some romantic, naive, ignorant notion with no foundation-base(is) (pun intended) in FACT??? I even like classic movices form before Big war, OK?

Pls know, paranoid & confused NOT my normal state of being. This is not good; I can usually focus like a laser over time and get clear on things differentially. In this, I can't.

But suddely seeing the little istake.....it warmed me a lot. Some imperfectoins make U luv the puppy. Others, not so much.

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One more: Famous aphorism, if it looks too good to be true, it probably is. Now, my take is the Lilihans were not as fine in their construction as the Sarouks. Now they say the KPSI are 120-140......isn't that also more fodder for I dun thin so? OR KNOT.

Ok....I just found their page. Rugandroll. In Memphis. the make trips to Iran ONGOING, they are real deal from Iran, salt of the earth,father was/is a total pundit... yadda, yadda, yadda. He chose a SONY VAIO. Not a bad choice, but also not worth the money. but neither was my Alienware Sentia.

What can we learn form this? NOTHING.

http://blogs.ebay.com/rugandroll

I am not impressed by the cattleya (the orchid saTge left). Plus and most important, he did not grow it. He is high maintenance. He makes serious profits. given new price of this rug....what does that tell us about its real worthiness?

I WANT A POLYGRAH PERSON!!!!!

this time they did auction.....little over an hour to go; not one bid. I would not do anytng without more feedback here. No way. THERE is some CATCH HERE; MORE than one, I think.

I am not having fun yet.

O CAPPED CRUSADER GUY!!!! I like the pithy comments. Esp WOOL over the eyes. lol

Yes, the 3 card Monte Game stuff very enervating, eroding, debilitating and alienating. Very. I just noticed their return policy is THREE DAYS. Shrewdly calculated to preclude returns altogether. Think about it. It ain't the stuff of integrity and authenticity and CLASS..

But letting go of the little mistake in the border strip is hard.

Somehow, the colors in this rug make it look very new to me. See the Lilis I just posted. Unequiocal i their luminosity and highly individual. I might capitulate in the age thingy......just tell me the truth.

I do not think their heads are where yr frustration decided....I think these are very slick humans, and everything they do is purposeful AND CALCULATED TO A CERTAIN END. It's the mindset I find pernicious...no, repulsive.

But I adore the "mistake"....I just adore it.

My take is, while this second auction is closing...if U can call it an auction, no way will I let anyone pressure me into anything, I hate toxic.....if I end up wanting this Less Than item, I will be able to get it.

I have bought probably 50 carpets from RugandRoll and always been more than delighted. With all eBay sellers you have to know what you're looking at and read through the HooHa.

Hi again Krow, forgive this addendum but it just presented......that is how it works with me in every life arena every minute.

It is my understanding, that while you are true and discerning lover of fine rugs.....you are also a dealer. I am wondering what percentage of the many rugs you have gotten from this vendor and have been delighted with. have been for resale and chosen for that purpose with an educated take on the needs of your particular client base, thus generating delight.....versus shopping for something PERSONAL & precious, when it is filled with provenance and nuances and is meant to be your first and ONLY RUG PURCHASE

Delight is good--if fact, it is DELIGHTFUL.....but it is also very case and individual specific, yes?

Did you know them when they were here in NYC? It was not long ago.

O!!!!!!!! I just came upon this!!!!!! See? these "anomalies" I now see in this rug, and find compelling and delightful....ARE, OMG.. EXAMPLES of well documented TRADITION with religious underpinnings!!!!!!!

Surprisingly, a fine Persian rug will almost always include intentional imperfections. In fact, there's an old Persian proverb that says, "A Persian Rug is Perfectly Imperfect, and Precisely Imprecise". This notion of intentionally including slight and minor irregularities is derived from the religious belief that God is the only perfect being and that attempting absolute perfection would be claiming the position of the Almighty.

How come nobody told me? This is SO CHARMING! Google, Great Gift

We all have to go with our feelings. I have never paid Rug and Roll a thousand dollars for a carpet, or anyone else sight-unseen on eBay. For me personally, had I seen that rug on there offered by them, I wouldn't have given it a second glance. Unless I was shopping for a specific color palette for a specific client, I think the colors are frumpy. Buying that carpet at $1100, what on earth is it going to be marked up at? Not seeing it. It's ordinary. I think. There are too many carpets on there to lose sleep over something you're not sure of.