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Feedback on my Isfahan “Mehmandost” Rug
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#1 Posted : Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:13:41 PM(UTC)
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I would appreciate getting feedback on my Isfahan “Mehmandost” 3’9”x5’9” rug, excl. fringe. I purchased it 2003. It has 10 intervals of Kheft. KPSI is 491 based on average of 3 samples. The fibers are wool pile with silk highlights on silk foundation.
In order to complete the Pro Estimator, I would appreciate receiving feedback on:

Age? (21-49?)
Kurk Wool?
Handspun?
Tea Wash? The Canadian appraiser did not indicate the rug had been washed; however, the possibility that it might have was recently raised based on photos only. What do you think? Since I don’t know if the rug was tea washed, I answered “No/Don’t Know”. I have no clue… would appreciate hearing your opinions.

Here is the Pro Estimator link to view my input. Please advise if you think I need to adjust my answers.
http://www.RugRag.com/Ap...-4449-95FE-52DB68C80771
Thank you for your consideration.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:43:45 AM(UTC)
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The rug has a golden cast that does not appear to be patina from age. It will be interesting to see what KAD and Sharafi say.

There are two ways to check - part the pile from the front of the rug in lighter areas to see if the roots may be more brilliant. If that does not work, the next best way to check is to extract a knot from the reverse of the rug. What you will look for is lack of gold tint on the areas of hard compression, such as where the knot wraps around the warps and is packed down by the wefts. These are tight, deep areas of the rug that the washing process pigment often will not fully permeate.

On a very fine rug like this which may normally have high-end or collector appeal, a golden wash will often detract from the value.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:54:54 AM(UTC)
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To answer your questions in their order

The Age is right
It should be Kurk Wool
Not handspun

It would be a travesty if they have tea washed this. It is very difficult to tell from your images. The one with the coin suggests that it was but then another one of the back is a different colour. As Rugpro says open the pile and see if the colour is much brighter. But then again that can happen with ageing and unless you have seen these sort of washed before you will find it difficult to tell. But I would say if it has a uniform browny yellow tint to it then it is very likely that it has been tea washed. You can have that taken off by a specialist, but then again if somebody likes it as it is why go through the risk
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#4 Posted : Friday, November 21, 2014 12:09:26 PM(UTC)
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Results from my testing for "gold" wash:
1. I undid two tight knots of the fringe. The part of the fringe that had been buried was exactly the same colour as the part of the fringe that would have been exposed to any washing process.
2. I bent the pile over so that I could see to the root of the pile. There was no gradual lightening or darkening of the pile throughout its length. However, when looking at the pile from above, viz. by looking at the ends of the pile head on, it is obviously darker than looking at the pile along its length. But the colour of both views were the same. The difference in brightness is more than likely caused by a difference in the reflective properties of the two different angles.
3. I compared the back of the carpet to the front. The back seems to have a slight grayish cast while the front was darker and had a slight golden hue. Again, some (or all) of this can be accounted for by the difference in the reflective qualities of the hard verses the soft texture. However, not having had the experience of comparing a "washed" with an "unwashed" carpet of the same colour, I'm not sure at this point whether mine has or has not been "washed." I'm including some additional photos that my shed some light on this discussion.
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#5 Posted : Friday, November 21, 2014 1:27:11 PM(UTC)
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It's too difficult to say without seeing in hand. The fringe may not show signs since silk absorbs in a different way. I may be mistaken, but I do believe it has some tea wash even if very convincing by signs of roots, etc. I have never known these rugs to have a coffee gold shade like this unless altered - usually the natural color is a creamy ivory, or a very gold yellow as opposed to the coffee goldish brown as it appears. Also, the blue area in the bottom border appears much lighter which can be signs of spotting. Don't know though...
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:50:50 AM(UTC)
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Does look like it has had some form of light wash. The yellow tinge shouldn't be there just based on its age.
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#8 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 11:10:00 AM(UTC)
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the rug was made in the late 1980´s up to end 1990´s. It even my have been new when purchased (time from finishing the rug, trading within Iran, export and so on may take some time). It has a wash that is not comparable to tea or herbal wash - it is a chemical wash that was popular at that time. Worldwide most famous company for these "antique" washs is Kiskan Process in Hamburg, Germany and Migro in Vienna, Austria. Some washing facilities in Iran come very close to the washing quality in Germany. I think this wash was made in Tehran.
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#9 Posted : Saturday, March 14, 2015 8:57:59 PM(UTC)
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Would it not be very unusual for Iran rugs to be given a golden wash of any type of fine rug?
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