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#1 Posted : Saturday, May 9, 2009 12:54:58 PM(UTC)
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...here's a bunch that came through...seller is asking for 6k for the lot...says they're 1920s and estimated value of 11k... what do ya think...
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rug 1 2512 x 48.jpg
rug 2 52 x 81.jpg
rug 3 52.5x76.5.jpg
rug 4 60 x 72.jpg
rug 5 25 x 46.jpg
rug 6 30 x 46.jpg
rug 7  39 x 63.jpg
rug 8 8'10 x 11'6.jpg
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#2 Posted : Saturday, May 9, 2009 10:52:22 PM(UTC)
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Images are very difficult to determine much from. Here's my two cents, for some reason I think the images may be bigger? I am only seeing approximately the top half of each rug.

rug 1 2512 x 48.jpg - Second best design and colors of the lot

rug 2 52 x 81.jpg - okay, not as nice as what I saw in the first. good colors, more unique design...

rug 3 52.5x76.5.jpg - 3rd best design and colors, but ends and corner appear chewed a bit. bad for value, but still worth a good buck.

rug 4 60 x 72.jpg - decent, may have some isolated areas of poor painting or fading. Upper right corner apears to have some conditional issues, perhaps color run, but def. some loss to the ends.

rug 5 25 x 46.jpg - best design and colors. bad loss to end, chewed up toward the center through the minor border, may be into the main border.

rug 6 30 x 46.jpg - okay, coarser than all the rest, some wear close to or touching the foundation.

rug 7 39 x 63.jpg - Tied for 3rd best design, also seems to be the most intact of the group with exception to 30x46 above (rug 6)

rug 8 8'10 x 11'6.jpg - heavy isolated fading, very, very bad for value.


Mosaic, 1920's would not be incorrect age for the majority of these rugs. Estimated value for replacement may be justified for being high ..... I really have to see more photos to say much about value, but I think 6k is steep from these images.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:25:48 PM(UTC)
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I am not entirely clear on the respective sizes of these rugs cept for the last one. Is the one Pro likes best a runner?

I find rug #5 has the best design details and colors, and would think the rug with the turquoise center medallion the least desirable within the vintage sarouk genre, that is. I also find it very interesting that not one of these bears the overall, repeating field designtypical of so many American Sarouks.

Also important to note, room sized vintage Sarouks, tho often not larger than 9 X12, in very good condition, bring the most most money. There have been smaller vintage Sarouks & runners, many in impressive condition on eBay forever, and nobody appears interested, tho it is also true, many of these bear very unrealistic asking prices.

To me, 11K for the lot ain no bargain given the specifics and what turnover with the goal of making a profit would comprise. Each of these has at least one issue which compromises market value. My take is, whoever is offering these gets all of that, esp in soft market.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:14:17 AM(UTC)
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I won´t give him the money. The second piece seems good, maybe Merino, the big one...Saruk...whats the problem with the right side?...the rest is maybe saruk, maybe Lilian, maybe Meriban.
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