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cuzinbruce		#1 Posted : Saturday, May 7, 2016 3:49:55 PM(UTC)
Rank: Member Groups: Member Joined: 5/28/2014(UTC) Posts: 85 Points: 264 Location: Northern NJ		Hi, I am trying to identify this rug I purchased this morning. I think it is Persian and have a couple of thoughts but I will see what the experts think. Size is about 51" X 75". Seems to have some age, semi-antique maybe? 1950's or earlier? As for condition, it was attacked by some fool with a vacuum cleaner so there are problems on the ends and the selvage. The pile is pretty good. Might be dirty or tea dyed? Looks like cotton warp and weft. I thought it was pretty and the cost was minimal. Please let me know what you think. Thanks, Bruce cuzinbruce attached the following image(s):
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KAD		#2 Posted : Sunday, May 8, 2016 4:39:17 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Dealers, Member Joined: 2/14/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,097 Points: 3,393 Location: Germany		Machine made wih Kerman floral design. I am not familiar with Karasran rugs but this is what I would think it could be. Art Oriental - Djoharian fine oriental rug, since 1967 Ludwigstr. 21 97816 Lohr, Bavaria - Germany https://www.the-rug-store.de https://www.facebook.com...nTeppicheArtOrientalGmbh https://www.instagram.com/djoharian_collection/
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cuzinbruce		#3 Posted : Sunday, May 8, 2016 2:49:46 PM(UTC)
Rank: Member Groups: Member Joined: 5/28/2014(UTC) Posts: 85 Points: 264 Location: Northern NJ		Please take another look. I took some close-ups today that show the structure better. Is this machine made? I was certain it was handmade when I bought it. Did I goof? cuzinbruce attached the following image(s):
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cartona		#4 Posted : Monday, May 9, 2016 6:58:34 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Member Joined: 2/7/2014(UTC) Posts: 458 Points: 1,392 Location: grosse pointe park, michigan		Hi, I agree with KAD. Its machine made... probably Karastan... Notice also how the weave looks like the warps are running the wrong way on the rug. Also, there is a fuzziness in the pile. It has all of the colors of a Kerman, mille Fleur... don't know the age.
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1 user thanked cartona for this useful post.		cuzinbruce on 5/9/2016(UTC)
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cuzinbruce		#5 Posted : Monday, May 9, 2016 7:48:25 PM(UTC)
Rank: Member Groups: Member Joined: 5/28/2014(UTC) Posts: 85 Points: 264 Location: Northern NJ		Hi, No question it is machine made. Sure fooled me though. I saw the warps and wefts. And the pile in the damaged area pulled out in little curled pieces. For me, now, I look at the absolute straightness of the rows of pile, and the uniformity of the pile on the back, could only have come from a machine. That's what I get for buying rugs with a flashlight in the morning. Fortunately it did not cost me much. I can probably sell it for more than I paid. Thanks, Bruce
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