I could go see this!! It is local. VERY LOCAL. Has real luminosity like mine! But if the wear is serious, no way is it worth what he is asking.

I also observe, when someone exhausts himself to justify an asking price, i.e, this is the biggest bargain in the Western Hemisphere ....the response ought be, "talk to the hand,' let's get real." I am also turned off by the dog and pony thingy re "yadda, yadda, these are quite rare". Do not pee on my leg and tell me it is raining, OK? Jilly don play that.

As per The Bard: methinks thou dost protest too much.

http://newyork.craigslis...mnh/fuo/1006067606.html

And to me, the fringes look new. They look like my fringers when I had the original ones replaced. Also, I don't see how it could be 1900 cause it is painted. My take was they din start doing that until the 20s to make these rugs more colorful and appealing to the American Market. Which totally WORKED. Is tihs right?

I get he needs the money, I am hardly insensitive to that. Quite the opposite.

This rug is far more formal and ornate than mine was, both withn the field, cetner detail and within the borders. But thing is.....it's got exactly the same lifeforce. I LIKE THIS RUG.

O M G.

I could even borrow one of the building's dollies!!!!! Bet he is in walking distance!!!!!! Not that I am gettin ahead of myself. Much.

Note: the reaosn I copied, saved in my new rug folder... and uploaded his pics here, is....I try to see rugs others have posted here from sites and can't cause they have expired. In case this. "I think this may be my rug!!!" gets gone....I hope not before I can go see it on Monday....I wanted to preclude that happening.

More in the dog and pony show arena: do not tell me the rug is not square, it's sides not parallel, because it is HANDMADE. My rug was nicer than this, same age, obviously handmade... and you could put a T-square to the corner, a tape along every inched edge to edge and smile. Not that I ever did......but I knew that rug. So did the dealer who got it. this rug is alarmingly not square, it is not simply a couple of inches off. I have no idea what could cause this in a rug of this size and density?...mine was densely knotted. What could have caused this???????

So rug has issues, maybe seroiuus. big wear in places, and seriously not square. for openers.

I am now CAVEAT EMPTORING BETTER. Knowledge is power; Fore-informed.....is forearmed!!!!!!!! Got most of my growing ARMAMENTARIUM...right HERE!!!!!!! I am so grateful.

I am also turned off by his Madison Avenue wannabe re co op, condo, suburban home and the other patronizing stuff. Hard sells most often speak ISSUES. That merda only works with the unenlighted and malleable, OK? There are fewere of those than he tinks around looking for this level of rug. My rug had none of these issues.

My guess is, he tried to sell it where he had it appraised, maybe to other dealers and learned its real value. Jilly=tired, Jilly little paranoid. But perhaps not the latter. I am girding loins in case I love it... for what it is really worth.

Hi,

I agree, Pro. but got a little less excited by seeing his response:

Yes you can come by tomorrow, morning would be best as there is good light. There is definitely considerable wear as I mentioned, but it was appraised at $5,500 in its current condition. The fringes are not added but are pulled from the weave I believe. The base is not dry or brittle. Let me know if you want to come over.
Mitch

I am going, THERE IS ZERO REASON NOT TO.... but the level of wear sounds a little depressing. I AM TIRED OF DEPRESSING, Now Pro, what could make a rug like this so not square?????? It's Not just a coupla inches, it's major.

I know it shouldn't but his relentlessness always trying to support his asking price depresses me too. I doot wana fight; I jsut wanna get a rug I love, for what the rug is worth, OK? Hard as I try, I can't get the visin on ine outa my head.

a lot of factors can play into a final weaving not being square. Inconsistent weaving would perhaps be the top reason

In some instances where the warp threads are not properly secured at the top of the loom, it's not uncommon for them to migrate closer together making the rug more narrow as weaving continues.

When looking into the dark side of the rug, the end furthest away from you will most commonly be the narrow of the two ends if the rug has width discrepancies.

For a sarouk of the variety posted, it's not uncommon, but should/will often impact value more so than a tribal rug/carpet

p.s. if wear is even and consistent, this is okay for the most part so long as no traffic patterns are discernible. If wear is uneven or the rug has even small localized threadbare areas, this is not good.

Final Report.

OK, Jilly sad. Poor rug. Poot Mitch. Poor doorman and UPS guy....both of whom hit on me. They din care I was there to see a rug.
This thing was once glorious---borders still not terrible......was glorious in different way than mine. It is now on life support. Tragic. Much worse than we knew. Just the thickness between my fingers was like half what mine was.....I think less. Not only knots showing but blue thingies too. also terrible repair. I crawled around on it, first asked permission. Then asked permission to take pics.

Interesting that the wefts were like lite blue which I seem to remember mine were as well. Not sure why.

I told him wut Pro says HE says. He said, it's OK, the rug doesn't speak to you. I said, no it is speaking.....it's the condition that is getting in the way of the transmission I was hoping for, I am so sorry. If he actually thinks someone is gong to give him even close to 1,500 for this poor thing.....well, poor Mitch.

He said were in in perfect shape it would be worth 5K. He is all over the place. Were it in perfect shape it would be worth more than that. As it is, it is worth Ugatz.

I will upload now.....but only a few of wut I took. Cause it is SAD, OK? I thought this was it. Cause it was very first time I looked on Craigslist and bingo, one rug, a vintage Sarouk, only 8 blocks away!!!! And in HIS pics, it looked lit from within.

OMG, mine was a thousand times better in every way. Pro is right....U gotta see it in person. but please know, I was incredibly confident. It shocked me. Walking home I realized this owed completely and only... to my having found this site and being a member of this community and being gifted by Pro & also Krow. I got how much I have learned. It all hit me when I was in the Gourmet Garage. I am on whole different level (from totally clueless) I was on only couple of weeks ago. I am amazed.

I am very grateful for this.

PS, I would like to know what those blue thingies are.
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Edit: Mitch said it was in their bedroom mainly covered by the bed. If so, how could it ever have been appraised at 10K? Or even replacement value of $5,500? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS INDUSTRY??????

He also said, this roommate of his from college...it was that guys' grandmother's rug....had given it to him, he "wanted to leave his past behind". We can now see it had bad karma from jump. lol

O thank you! The blue thingies shocked me & broke my heart. It was as if the innards of the rug were in pain and trying to escape. OK that was a bit much, but that is how it felt. I had no idea a flash could produce what looked to me like healthy sheen.

Yes, I agree: were it in good shape---EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT MINE WAS, it would be worth over 5K; also agree his $1,750 very unrealistic.....I thnkm even retail it would be worth lower. But AGAIN, I am still stuck in my former rug. Boy, was I a clueless fool. Now I should add.....re Ms. Blauhard.....when I spoke to them after they got the pics and they said it was fine example and they would hook me up with honest dealers who wold buy it.....they also said these usually go for around $1,500. Hand to heaven. That is how my origiinal bar got set....no, wrong... SET UP. THE BLAU person said that ok? With quiet conviction and authority. AND I BELIEVED THEM!!!!

I wish I had not thrown out all those pics.

But I will get over it....and before Sarah Palin returns her stuff from Neiman Marcus. lol

And I WILL find MY rug.

the whole time I was there, mostly craWLING around On my tummy....my checkbook was hiding in my purse saying "I am NOT COMING OUT, NOT FOR THAT!"

Wait,.. in that email did he offer to sell at a higher price than he offered before you saw it??!?

lol send him the link to this thread after you found your rug

Feb 6 update, The Return of Mitch

U just can not make this stuff up, OK?

It's back on ebay......this time for lower "opening bid" at least. Poor Mitch. Poor rug. What part of this does he not get????? http://rover.ebay.com/ro...9&mtid=824&kw=lg

Exactly. But can you believe this? I mean really, CAN YOU?

It is so good that Sully din have to land that Airbus wit da goose-killed engines in Da rivah Mitch lives it!!!!! De Nial. Those 151 people would now be dead.