They both appear to be relatively new production, the past 10 years. The wool and silk one is an Isfehan and it appears to be with Kork wool, which is the first cutting of a lamb. It is typical design from the area and is very good fine piece.
The Silk one is a Qum and the quality of photo did not allow me to read the signature. Even though you have not posted an image of the back I am sure it is a very fine piece with good quality Silk. This type of production started about 15 to 20 years ago in Qum. The look and feel is slightly different to old Qums because the way it is woven is slightly different but it is much much finer than the old Qums. Also they only started weaving these sort of designs in silk Qums about 10 years ago.
Wonderful pieces. Enjoy them. You seem to have a good, expensive taste
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