Welcome Guest Search | Active Topics | Log In | Register

Estimate on a Nain Habibian
Options
Previous Topic Next Topic
JDUB Offline
#1 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:38:25 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Groups: Member

Joined: 8/22/2011(UTC)
Posts: 2
Points: 6
Location: Herndon, VA
First off I'd like to say that this site seems to have a wealth of knoweldge on rugs and is a great place to find information. I've looked through a lot of posts and everyone seems to be very helpful and considerate.

Now, I have a Nain rug signed by Habibian. It's certified to be 1200 kpsi or 4 LAA. The size is approximatley 6' x 8'. I've done a lot of research on it and it seems like it should be worth quite a bit but I really can't get a good estimate on it. Pictures are attached. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
File Attachment(s):
BSR_028.jpg (2,981kb) downloaded 374 time(s).
BSR_030.jpg (2,245kb) downloaded 174 time(s).
BSR_031.jpg (2,244kb) downloaded 130 time(s).
BSR_032.jpg (1,299kb) downloaded 93 time(s).
BSR_033.jpg (3,141kb) downloaded 97 time(s).
BSR_029.jpg (2,716kb) downloaded 104 time(s).
Back to top
Sponsor  
 

Love the Rug Rag Forums?

Register above, then purchase a monthly Forum Pass for Full Access
Back to top  
Rugfirm Offline
#2 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:04:30 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Member

Joined: 3/2/2011(UTC)
Posts: 286
Points: 885
Location: California, U.S.A.
Beautiful Persian Nain rug with a "Gunbad (Dome)" design. If you go to a mosque, stand right underneat the center of the dome and look up, this is what you will see. This pattern showed up in the production of Nain not long ago. So my guess is that it is made by the new generation of Habibian family, and not by the late Fathollah Habibian. This is a 6 LAA Nain, and in fact, 4 LAA Nain rugs are much rarer than a lot of people think. Take a single strand of the fringe and twist it counterclockwise. You will see that it consists of 3 individual strands each containing 2 tiny ones, it makes 3*2=6. Assuming that it is a 6 LAA and has no damages, a fair market value for a private buyer would be around $6500-$6800.
Back to top
WWW BLOG
1 user thanked Rugfirm for this useful post.
JDUB on 8/24/2011(UTC)
KAD Offline
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:52:02 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Dealers, Member

Joined: 2/14/2010(UTC)
Posts: 1,097
Points: 3,393
Location: Germany
Due to the different colors of brown directly around the signature and the surrounding border, my guess is that the signature was added. It is still a very beautiful rug of high quality, but I also think it is 6 la. Please check like rugfirm described and let us know.
Art Oriental - Djoharian fine oriental rug, since 1967
Ludwigstr. 21 97816 Lohr, Bavaria - Germany
https://www.the-rug-store.de
https://www.facebook.com...nTeppicheArtOrientalGmbh
https://www.instagram.com/djoharian_collection/



Back to top
WWW
1 user thanked KAD for this useful post.
JDUB on 8/24/2011(UTC)
Little-Persia Offline
#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:29:20 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Dealers, Member

Joined: 5/4/2009(UTC)
Posts: 453
Points: 1,380
Location: Glasgow, UK
Well spotted KAD, the signature definitely looks to be added.

Also agree that it's not a 4laa rug, wouldn't have thought it would have such a high KPSI either - are there any images of the back?

Nice rug though.
Back to top
WWW BLOG
1 user thanked Little-Persia for this useful post.
JDUB on 8/24/2011(UTC)
JDUB Offline
#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:56:44 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie
Groups: Member

Joined: 8/22/2011(UTC)
Posts: 2
Points: 6
Location: Herndon, VA
Thanks for the replies. I went back and and untwisted the starnd as you stated. There was only two strands. I took a picture of it and it's attached. I also took a close picture of the back with a quater on it. Hopefully the pictures are clear enough to see.
JDUB attached the following image(s):
DSC01786.JPG
DSC01782.JPG
DSC01789.JPG
Back to top
KAD Offline
#6 Posted : Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:59:06 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Dealers, Member

Joined: 2/14/2010(UTC)
Posts: 1,097
Points: 3,393
Location: Germany
Untwisit the two warps some more. There will be 2 or 3 very small strings. I came up to 30 knots across the diameter of the quarter. One quarter is about 25 mm. 30 Knots /25 mm is 12 knots per mm. One cm² is 144 knots (12 x 12). To get the right number in square inch, multiply the number of knots by 6,54. Will turn out to be about 942 kpsi. Not 1200 kpsi, but still extremely fine rug.
Art Oriental - Djoharian fine oriental rug, since 1967
Ludwigstr. 21 97816 Lohr, Bavaria - Germany
https://www.the-rug-store.de
https://www.facebook.com...nTeppicheArtOrientalGmbh
https://www.instagram.com/djoharian_collection/



Back to top
WWW
Little-Persia Offline
#7 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 4:23:37 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Dealers, Member

Joined: 5/4/2009(UTC)
Posts: 453
Points: 1,380
Location: Glasgow, UK
Yeah I got 30x30 as well so around 900kspi. As KAD said, still a very fine rug (Nains do tend to be finer than most other rugs but even as Nains go it's pretty fine).
Back to top
WWW BLOG
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Powered by YAF | YAF © 2003-2010, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0.092 seconds.