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#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 15, 2010 6:13:52 PM(UTC)
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I have just returned from India where i bought a 3X5 silk carpet made in Kashmir for almost $1100. I do not know anything about carpets, but I have a slight feeling that a payed to much. Could you indicate the right price for this carpet based on the pictures?

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#2 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 6:50:26 AM(UTC)
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I don't know about what you should be paying as an individual (dealers are always going to get better prices, as a tourist you're always going to get charged a lot more).

It looks to me to be quite a fine one - I'd say in the UK that you'd pay around £2000-2500 for this in a rug shop.
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#3 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 6:51:37 AM(UTC)
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Just seen the answers and kspi on another thread... if it is that fine it would be more than that. £3000+ in the UK.
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#4 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:50:09 PM(UTC)
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Thank you for answers! Could I ask for a short brief in number of knots on a carpet. What is the next levels after 24x24 kpsi?
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#5 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 2:44:51 PM(UTC)
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There are plenty of articles on how to count knots...this is just one small part of the 'rug'. A low knot count has the ability to be worth more than a higher kpsi due to rarity and other factors. Here's a rug I have, a super high knot count, but Chinese (which lowers it's value). Much to learn...

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#6 Posted : Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:43:43 AM(UTC)
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Each area has its own qualities. India often uses knots per square inch. Turky and Iran use metric system, so a rug 9 x 9 per cm
equals pretty much your 24 x 24 per square inch. Chinese ue the therm lines. It tells how many knots are on the length of one ft (30,5 cm). A quality that is close to yours is 300 lines. They all describe just about the same knot density. In the early 1980 the finest rug of the world was a Turkish Hereke with 4.000.0000 knots per m² or 2580 kpsi. In the late 1990 this was topped by chinnese rugs with 6.250.000 knots per m² / 4030 kpsi and then 9.000.000 knots per m² / 5805 kpsi. Then in 1998 a rug was presented by Zhenping from China with 15.500.000 kpsi / 9999 kpsi. All mentioned rugs are unbelivable expensive and are made to show the skills of the producers. A wool rug is already fine if it has ca. 200 kpsi and more, a silk rug should have at least 400 kpsi.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:51:19 PM(UTC)
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Thank you for answers!
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#8 Posted : Friday, September 24, 2010 8:52:32 AM(UTC)
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KAD wrote:
Each area has its own qualities. India often uses knots per square inch. Turky and Iran use metric system, so a rug 9 x 9 per cm
equals pretty much your 24 x 24 per square inch. Chinese ue the therm lines. It tells how many knots are on the length of one ft (30,5 cm). A quality that is close to yours is 300 lines. They all describe just about the same knot density. In the early 1980 the finest rug of the world was a Turkish Hereke with 4.000.0000 knots per m² or 2580 kpsi. In the late 1990 this was topped by chinnese rugs with 6.250.000 knots per m² / 4030 kpsi and then 9.000.000 knots per m² / 5805 kpsi. Then in 1998 a rug was presented by Zhenping from China with 15.500.000 kpsi / 9999 kpsi. All mentioned rugs are unbelivable expensive and are made to show the skills of the producers. A wool rug is already fine if it has ca. 200 kpsi and more, a silk rug should have at least 400 kpsi.


KAD,

We all learn something new every day... a 1000 line carpet, that's pretty amazing. Was trying to find pictures of if online but couldn't find any anywhere which seems strange.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:42:01 AM(UTC)
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what ever lines or knot count quality, the most important thing is that the piles are tied on the warps or hooked there. God quality silk rugs follow the traditional workmanship. Each pile is tied on the hack warp individually. If the piles are hooked on the warps, it will be much easier to make. Of course the workmanship is much lower. We have a few pieces of silk rugs. Even there are around 450knots per square inch but it is real tied knot silk rug. The quality is good enough.
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