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#1 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:12:06 PM(UTC)
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I got this on craigslist a while back from an older fellow with a huge storage unit chock full of stuff for $100. It's huge, (17' 4" x 11' 6") and except for a small, approximately 6"x1" section that got chewed on by a roommate's dog in good condition. I've attached pictures of all, including the small damaged section that I quickly repaired with some knitting twine.

The guy I bought it from didn't remember where he got it from, or how much he paid for it, aside from thinking it "might have been Cherokee, or Navajo...but I'm not really sure, I just might think so because of the pattern"

I'm at a loss...I really like it, but I moved into a smaller place, so I have no need for it. How much should I ask on ebay?

Thanks!
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#2 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:17:01 PM(UTC)
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You got a great deal for a hundred bucks. Not many Navajo rugs made that survived in large sizes.
They have a lot of Navajo sites if you google them, you could find the name of the pattern.
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#3 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 8:41:41 AM(UTC)
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I think this is an Indian Dhurrie with interpretation of a persian design. new they go for anywhere between $1 per square foot to $5 per square foot..
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#4 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 9:47:41 AM(UTC)
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Yes, the design looks very Persian, and not at all native American. Persian Rugs work in SW decor, but anyone with knowledge knows the difference.
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#5 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 10:17:50 AM(UTC)
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It looks Navajo from the close-up. Does it have any lazy lines and can you take some better pictures?
Navajo would be much more expensive.
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#6 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 5:52:01 PM(UTC)
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My parents worked summers on the Navajo reservation my whole childhood and have been collecting Navajo rugs for 30+ years. That isn't a design I've ever seen. There's a lot of Navajo patterns such as Two Grey Hills, Storm Pattern, Yei, Chei, and that doesn't fall into any category I'm familiar with.

That coupled with the size I'd say no way. An authentic Navajo rug that size would be a museum piece.

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#7 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 7:14:01 PM(UTC)
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I've seen that design before but can't remember where. I think it was a workshop rug in the
early 20th century.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:32:07 PM(UTC)
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Looks like a dhurrie in a heriz style.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:50:32 PM(UTC)
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I beleive I just seen that rug at my friends shop. I presume it was getting machine serged . This is so ironic . I would have hand serged that with a wool to match. Machine serging takes away from the value.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:12:08 PM(UTC)
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Harry Myers wrote:
Looks like a dhurrie in a heriz style.


Here's a pic of an Indian Dhurrie with stylized Persian palmettes and palmette border.
The border of the one above looks like a stylized turtle border to me, very similar in general style.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:12:29 AM(UTC)
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Snuffle does the rug have fringe on the ends, it doesn't look like it in the photo?
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#12 Posted : Friday, January 1, 2010 6:04:57 AM(UTC)
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Hi all, and thanks for the ongoing insight. The rug does not have fringe. Also, H. Meyers, it wasn't in a shop recently, and I did hand sew the wool thread in.
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#13 Posted : Friday, January 1, 2010 8:37:45 AM(UTC)
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If it doesn't have fringe I think that makes it a Navajo for certain as I've never seen a kelim
without fringe. If it has lazy lines that would be another indication. Some better pics would
help.
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ed do you think the weave looks closer to a dhurrie? these often don't have fringe, especially the ones coming from India
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#15 Posted : Friday, January 1, 2010 10:07:08 AM(UTC)
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I'd like to see some better pics but it doesn't look good for that, who knows. It's not
like the Navajo didn't weave coarse rugs or very large rugs. I still say 80to90% Navajo.
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#16 Posted : Friday, January 1, 2010 1:02:56 PM(UTC)
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RugPro wrote:
ed do you think the weave looks closer to a dhurrie? these often don't have fringe, especially the ones coming from India


Here's one. (I myself know too little about both dhurries and navajo rugs to have a view on which one the rug would be.)
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#17 Posted : Friday, January 1, 2010 1:56:20 PM(UTC)
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The red looks like the one they unraveled from trade cloth or something like that.
I don't think that they were making Indian durries without fringe in the 1930s and
if we could get some more pics we could find out for sure. If it has lazy lines or other
characteristics of Navajo rugs then the mystery would be solved.
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