LOL, thanks for all you and the others have helped, we really didn't get "ripped off" just ummm misrepresented ;) We THINK we paid about 300 or so for both, but probably not much more as we are rich only by middle eastern rug seller standards, lol but I DO KNOW for a fact they are 15 yrs old and I have no problem holding on to them for another 35 yrs or so, or at least until I decide our investment was worth the wait. I find them to be beautiful and unique to what else I can find on the net, or have seen in other shops. We spent 2 yrs in Izmir Turkey and I did a little shopping while there, ( I was too young and dumb to realize the REAL opportunity I had) I have a "set" of everyday carpets, 8x12, 4 x 6, oval and hall runner that I also own along with an Anatolian Kilim, wool by the smell :) and the colors have bleed some but still a "fun" rug. After testing both fringes and the other carpet this site has made a believer out of me, 1st seems to be Silk on Cotton.... and the animals wool on cotton as I was advised. And now I know WHAT kind I have as well as the fact that they have increased in value. I also talked to my husband about WHO helped him and apparently, Sol assisted with the gold buying (THAT was a GREAT investment in todays market) and another American that thought he knew more than he did, go figure an arrogent american :), helped with the rugs. I was not on that trip. We did have a rug dealer in Turkey promise he had leather carpets and would "for you abbi, best price" we just laughed and kept on walking. My husband will be returning to the middle east soon and I have advised him to SEND PHOTOS FIRST lol and we'll see what all of YOU have to say before we buy. I plan on checking back on the site often as I've really enjoyed the experience........ thanks again to all.............. Peace Out