grab this rug for 800. just make sure there are no pet stains, dry rot, or other serious problems. if that one area is the only one worn to knot heads, it's a very good price at 800... If the entire rug is even low wear, very good. one thing - it does look slightly irregular in shape or size. perhaps one side longer than the other. if that's of concern to you or is a make or break for the area intended, ask

p.s. there is one area where the selvages look like they may need work. otherwise good looking carpet, a little more subtle than most would like to see for a sarouk, but a nice find. don't think it's as old as your other, this is probably a little newer.

It doesn't look to old ca. 1940 maybe a little older. Seems like a good deals if there aren't any problems like rugpro says.

...well, i spoke w/ them this morning and i think we're going to buy it. got it down to 550 plus shipping...i think it's a good deal, but hopefully, like everyone has said, the condition will be good...i think shipping will probably be 150, so 700 out the door is a good price...of course, i'll have to have it cleaned, which will be another couple of hundred...

...now this is it, i need to stop buying...and looking, because that's when i get in trouble :) i just love these type of rugs and can't pass up a deal... so, do you think i could get much on a resale? would a local oriental rug store be interested in this rug???

please let me know and thanks for your comments!!!
mosaic

...well, it's hopefully shipping today...i'll keep ya posted!

mosaic

...okay, i got the rug...beautiful! i tried to take it to Mo at Connesuier Oriental Rug in Evanston, IL, (who did the work on our last sarouk) but he was closed for the day unfortunately, so i brought it to another place that i had been to before and actually cleaned the large green kerman we own...i'm always skeptical of these people, but i wanted to hear what they had to say...

so, they looked at it and told me it was a MOHAJERAN SAROUK, circa early 1920 or even 1910, and were immediately interested in purchasing it. they said it was in good condition w/ a little uneven wear, but overall it had great colors and an interesting design, or drawing as they refered to it. also, they would not tell me how much they'd give me until i was certain that i would sell it to them...so, my question is this: is this standard practice, and w/ this new information, would anyone have a better idea of value? i will be able to take more photos after the weekend (we'll be out of town)....

...i am going to take it to Mo next week to have him take a look at it and access it and clean it... please let me know your thoughts. also, the rug is 10'4x13'2...
THANKS!!!!

...good observation...the didn't at first mentioned it was Mohajaran, actually there was another sales associate that walked by and mentioned that it was...he also ask the sales associate if he had told me why the brown died wool was low in its particular areas...which the first guy did not. he said it was because they had initially used metalic shavings in the die that would eat the wool away, and that once they figured it out that it did this they changed that process... i think the first sales associate was a little preturbed the second guy was willing to give some such great information away... it seemed to blow his poker face. also, they did not mention anything about giving me the best price if i did decide to sell...

...so, based on all this information, does anyone want to venture an estimate of value???

thanks.

Ed.

There are also some older Saruk from 1910 recolored. I often saw wonderful light-salmon one colored into red.

okay, i just brought it to Mo at Connesuier Oriental Rug...here is what he said...

...he liked it and wanted to buy it...said it had some issues, but nothing that couldn't be taken care of... it did have some small dog urine stains, but said they were only small and were not repeated, which is a good thing (he said he normally sees pet stains where dogs and cats will go in the same place over and over, which is impossible to get out)... but since it does have a little bit of urine, he'll need to do some additional cleaning, which, with the end repairs and minor salvage, puts the cost at 700 dollars...

so, right now, i'm in at 700 plus the potential 700 of bringing it up to great condition...

now, he does have a buyer of a sarouk of this size (which is 10x13) and is offering me 1200 dollars...

...so, here is my question, based on everything we know...what would each of you do given your knowledge of the industry, what i have into it, what it will take/cost to fix, what he is offering...and the fact that i really don't have a place for it... of course, i want to do the best thing and could always use the money, but i really do like this rug and am always afraid of making a bad deal...also, what about mo's offer...is it inline, or is it a low ball... i asked him honestly what he would sell it for and he said somewhere between 3-4k...so, again, is this a reasonable offer based on what would be considered a reasonable return on his mark-up...

...also, what about the potential for it to be a Mohajaran Sarouk...as everyone in the community ruled this out...mo was not quick to say it was, but did say it is definately 1920s...

...so, what does everyone think...and rugpro, what would you do in my shoes having known me a little bit from all my prior posts and feelings towards rugs?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

i eagerly await everyone's thoughts!!!

rugpro, thanks so much for the response...i think you're right, i think we're going to keep it...it's such a nice rug and you don't find them everyday...i'd hate to make a quick decision to sell now and then regret it later... i can always sell it later...even if i get some use and sell it for what i put into it, it's still a win/win...

...also, here is the break-down on the repairs he gave me...280 for hand cleaning, 280 for pet-stain removal (seemed to be a big process from his explanation), 160 for end repair (basically securing one whole side and a little bit of reconstructing) and selvages... i think it's a good price on all of it, but i guess i wasn't looking on putting that much into it right now... i know from what mo did on our last sarouk that the end product will be amazing and worth the cost...i do trust him and know he has a passion for caring/repairing rugs correctly...also, they do everything in-house...he claims that most stores don't actually clean rugs, they just shampoo them and that he normally takes one day to do a carpet this size when many will do dozens....

...as for my 'eye', i have to say a big thanks to you and to the others on this site (mostly you since you've been commenting on all the random rugs i've posted from the beginning) for stirring me in the right direction, and specifically in helping me define what types and styles of rugs i really love...of course, i'm still on the look-out for a late nineteenth century kerman that i can find cheap...

...sincerely, thanks again for all your advice and information rugpro...

I am a dealer and a specialist cleaner in the UK. The price for cleaning seems very reasonable. However, don't be fooled into thinking that Hand-Cleaning is better than cleaning with the help of machines. Some old delicate rugs or silk rugs may need hand-cleaning, but I can assure you a machine cleaned rug will be cleaner. How do you get the dust out without the use of a beating machine? If you are soaking the rug, how will you get the water out before putting it in a drying room? We have moved on from thinking that just rolling a rug in the snow cleans it.

As for the value, it looks like a nice rug and should be worth $3-5000 but without seeing it in the flesh none of us experts can really be certain. You could try an auction house for valuation.
Good luck
Robert