I can't find the old threads. I'd really like to see the photographs of it.

how you advertise the rug is up to you. If I were you, I would just title it "hand knotted persian design rug carpet Private Seller"

If it's going to CL, I think the best thing to do is just take a few great photographs. My opinion the rug is from the late 1980's early 1990's. Around this time someone would have spent a considerable amount if the rug is what I think it is. Maybe upwards of $2,000. I think it would be accurate to call this an Indo-Sarouk, or Sarouk Design Carpet, state the KPSI, and maybe have the rug verified.

Do you have the other images?

Looks like there may be a 1'x2' stain? anyway, 2k would have been completely possible, especially at ABC or comparable retailer in NYC. The rug looks like it needs a good wash. Given the description, although I haven't seen the rug in person, I think you could ask $200 - $250 in 6'x9' and have this be a fair price with subtle stain the mentioned size.

Does it have any stains?

Back in the day, again, I wouldn't be surprised at all if this rug sold for $35 per foot retail manhattan. I would ask $400 - 500 and see what may come about :)

Pro...I jus looked at the underside corner again. I know this sounds crazy, but the wefts appear to B different colors. Some are like white---those within the dk Navy guardband... and I think others--most of them--- are blue. How can that be? It's the BLUE WEFT phenomenon again!

OK wait....just flew in....would this be so that the knotters have CONTRAST with the wool? Like the darker wool they use the white weft thread and the lighter wool they use the blues weft thread? No, that doesn't sound right, does it?

Know what? Now that I have learned about Indo design within the field.....why I noticed the Jilly rug Indo flavor.....I now see today, this really does look very Indo! I think we nailed it, Pro!

Tho "design execution" is a kind of homage with the premise the design was purposefully, lovingly gestated....I do not get that with this rug, OK?....not sure if this field deserves it. hahahahah. Ok that was wrong of me. lol I need to honor and respect and like this puppy now....I've prolley been unfair to it all this time for the reasons I got only tonite.

Now Pro....I once sold a FAX machine I found on craigslit. It was fine. I have no other options cause I would rather eat worms than try to sell something n ebay. I mean it. It's not for me. Plus, I would have to SHIP IT. Pro.....today I spoke with Larry at the UPS store in Springfield as per Roxanne's instructions. He deals with most of their lots which require shipping to distant bidders and they have lots of those. Lovely guy.

I gave him all the info....i only mailed the check yesterday I think, it was for 1,582, I got 1,592 she thought this was funny....he asked lot # and size....then weight. I tole him 80 pounds. This is experienced guy, OK? He said, I think 95. I knew he was right. He charges for packing it at the gallery and taking it, of course...the gallery does none of that;, he made me insure it....so postulation before it all gets done around $135. Pro I ain packing and shippin no giant rugs, OK?

Amy was bad enuff, OK? and she is SMALL. and only 24 Lbs. And she is still in NJ....the UPS girl called today ....fabulous girl. Sheretta...I sent her Beyonce music.....and asked me to FAX or scan & email my original label which thank God I had. I AIN PACKING & SHIPPING, GIANT rug.

What option do I have other than Craigslist???? MITCH PUT HIS almost in the grave Sarouk On Craigslist! That is how I went to see it. After seeing it there. He only put in on eBay after that. Twice. Where nobody responded either time.

Brilliant!!!!! I never would have thought of keeping something at top of list!! Or that that would even matter. People should use the search field. Well, I am thrilled.....I NOW know all the stuff! Approx age, identity and probably country of origin!!! On top of hand knotted and 144!

THANK you sooooo much!!!!!

Jilly, 2 things

I do see the lower area. No biggie, it's somewhat accounted for in the value I gave you if that's the worst of the area

The white specks are white knots

The stains do not look good. If the rug is brittle in these areas let me know, staining will affect the value a lot, so I need more info on what you think the stains are and the condition of those areas

Plus.....the rug is NOT DRY OR BRITTLE IN ANY AREA, PRO. Jeeze.....For all this time I have hated this poor rug enuff, no? It does not deserve unjustified dissing. I have reported everything as usual, fully and accurately.

Only thing.....I always saw the white thingies, I now get, but did ot really SEE THEM.....cause I knew nothing until I came here, and just before, I was like, OMG, those are KNOTHEADS!!!!1 Cause in last weeks, I have LEARNED. Only other ones I have now seen in person....are those OMG ones all over Mitch's poor Sarouk....and his also had those turquoise ones as I am sure U recall.

Not for nuthing....and this is MY issue, no question, I again feel as I did when my mom would assume I was lying about sumthin I was NOT. lol.....not that funny, really. And in most ways I cherish you are the MONK (Tony Shalhoub's character) of the Rug pundits. But nobody's assumptions are always right, yes? Not EVEN OBAMA! Which he is sooo refreshingly upfront about!!

Tho look at his oval office.....he could not care less about the decorative arts; it's all cream color...including the rug, and Axelrod chuckles and says nobody can stand it in there, Pres keeps it so warm U could grow orchids!!! Cept it is misconception orchids like it hot!!!!! I grow them, I know.

Hey. Between clients.

1) no part of when YOU made the nancy thread....felt it was amazing, appropriate, courageous, brilliantly conceived and it brought me huge relief.....tho I knew she owuld never come here.....not part of that is an issue. for me, issue was much earlier when i was rent with confusion and pain and stunned by each and every events and each and every mail.....and I pasted them here. It was implIed way back that I might be pasting them verbatim. It was then I realized I hadda find them in their original.....nobody can alter anything in that form.....make screenies and put those up.

I have Virgo rising.... I can become excruciatingly detailed by all accounts. lol I know...U have natla Sun in Virgo. Not quite the same can be 1,500 interpretable aspect on a natal chart when you run one using good software and understand all of it.

2) Re garbage rug and stains.... each & every time you asked, I responded truthfully and in detail. Not sure where it all is....I think even early in this thread; in fac,t I am positive. I said no visible discernible stains, but whole rug could use washing. But it would have been human for someone to forget this.....and I can see re what you put up.....whatever the hell that was in that image appears like a stain. Also point taken re I can see these rugs and you can not cept in images, etc.

So I made another shot of that area and put that up. Communication is ongoing---life is a work in progress.....and the goal is always to work toward accuracy and clarity. Do we LUV COMMUNICATION? Yes!!! As long as the participants are in touch with reality, emotionally whole and always chasing, evolving and sharing truths.....which I think we both are and do.....unlike a rug vendor I can think of. lol

unrelatedly, I think the folded twice an rolled garbage rug.....might fit in the Jillyrug carton which I kept.....believe it or not, for that potential purpose.

More unrelatedly.....now that the garbage rug is folded.....I see perfectly finished floor under it.....and everywhere else not; Meaning, I need to have my floors done. Big mess, the floor scraper-finisher guys, BIG MESS unless it is empty apartment....but I must get this done. The new Jillyrug deserves it!!!!!
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Addendum: re the images I put up.....I do believe from the moment I took it outta the box and charge the battery, this little overengineered Nikon never functioned properly, consistently... except for in macrmode. The light has not been low and the camera has 8 MPS.....one reaosn I bought it, my last one had 3.2. So I apologize for THE DYSFUNCTIONAL NIKON.

When it started making a NOISE early this aM, I emailed Nikon I had registered it, of course....they responded and now I must send it back for "inspection' with copy of receipt. Another item I would just like to throw away.....3 months old not even.

I believe it is. There are no stains on the rug. The area is question involves a round detail, yes? Along the selvedge edge. when I can, I will unfold the thing and take new pics. I find this whole thing a little sad. Again, I feel I am being put on some witness stand IN SOME stian case omg) to defend my statement the rug has NO STAINS. My God....why would someone lie about such a thing?

I also need to recharge the batt of the dysfunctional little Nikon, takes around 40 mins... But trust me, I will make & upload whatever images I need to to put this behind me.

V busy...jus saw this. Will soon be able to log of evening work. I was challenged about something, tried to explain, was asked again, and then again re the image with the arrow. Foror Lord's sake......let me comply by taking pics! I think some accurate conclusions & closure are called for here. I see that image with the arrow and that what you thought yet agian is a stian, is in fact on one of the selvedge edges. I do now think I took the follow up pic in the right place. but let us now forget that. This will not be difficult; I iwll ismply make images of both selvedge edges and put them up.

Do I need to hire a defense lawyer? OMG I did not start this stain mess. mess. But it involves me and this rug....do we not now have Habeus Corpus and Due Process back? lol
I did not say U either take my word or not......I did reasonable and said I will take new pics and upload them. This is not rocket science, yes?
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OK all these too lite, Pro mailed me all I have put up, too grainy...I wanna get this right. I will try again and if those are not better also get out my older camera. I am going to get this proper if I never sleep again. Will upload bad grime corner shots.....they are all like this.

Now....found old camera, put in new batts....poor things uses 4 AAs, no zoom, 3.2 MP uses Image Expert 2000 software, a twain driver and not all images upload. Having said all that, forget it all takes forever.

I will now say, near the I think field detail---there are 4 of these within the field, two on either side just within the selvedge edge borders... Pro thought he saw a STAIN, I am pretty sure sure, tho the rug is reversed now....this is the field detail Pro marked with the arrow. Around that field detail, part of the navy field wool looks darker. I bent down and looked carefully.....there is no stain.

Maybe I will get some rug cleaner....thought I had from years ago, but I do not.....and see if I can use it on that navy part and see if something comes up. In person.....U see NOTHING WRONG.
Also, my friend stopped by.....and he also sees NO STAINS. He sees the dingy corner I guess I should try to clean.

Also near that field detail, you will notice in one shot with the ancient camera, a round spot which looks lighter. That is where I put a round, hevy glass thingy made for that purpose, I have lots, they were my mom's.... under the leg of something heavy so it will not make a hole in the rug. I did this with my Sarouk as well, and will again do it with my New Rug. All it is is the wool is a little squashed down. If I took a brush and brushed it up, it would be not squashed down.

I have had it for now wit all this. It is 4:17 AM.
Wow! The old camera ones uploaded as images, not as links!!!! I have no clue why and I am way too exhausted to care.

Hey. I slept. My friend ordered this. Yes, as I posted in yes, terrible pics.....all the pics made with this camera are cept for the macromodes....I feel very bad about this.....I see in the pics, esp in those I made with my old camera--HOW IRONIC....the NAVY WOOK close to that field detail appears darker in one place. Now, several humans have looked, we do no see any stains.....the pile there don feel any different from anywhere else. i should probably geet some kinda rug cleaner, for the grime corner too....I just don wanna. For me the only issue the poor rug has is the fringe issues, and now the knotheads I finally sawand got wut they are....tho it always did need a nice washing.

I would never in this life misrepresent anything. Cept those who stop me for speeding. Then, all bets are off. lol I have, on more than one occasional insisted on paying someone ore than they asked for in labor to do something. Most recently a plumber. Cause I knew he was underestmating this and he was the only one I interviewed I trusted.

Same deal as when you came upon a rug you liked and it was being offered for way less than what it was worth. By reflex, identifying with the seller, you apprised him of this. He ended up saying, I don care, I wanna get rid of it. (Now, I relate to him, but seriously doubt I would ever get anyone interested in the G rug that normal.)

Anyhow.....the Jilyrug is down more or less....not placed right yet and I need my friend to help get the edges under furniture.....but OMG it is amazing. Rich, deep, subtle, perfect essense for both I and this room, and, I think, and others already say,. unique. Nobody has ever seen anything like it. I am also NOT LETTING PEOPLE WALK ON IT WITH SHOES....but I will bet over this.

Rugs......are very, very heavy.

Finally, even Direrde who lives on two said, too bad U found it here.....cause the odds of someone who lives here liking and buying it would be very high; we have 131 residential units. they could just get the porter to take it to their apartment in the service elevator! But this is not an option for obvious reasons.....if the people who threw it out are sitll here. There is no way of knowing that.

I tried to make pics of the Jilly rug down.....they are pathetic to embarrassing...as usual.....even worse than the G rug ones. Not one depicts the color correctly, not one. but I will upload them in the proper thread just 4 the hell of it.

When I was teenager....Nikon was The Best. Now it is all made in some basement in third world country by small children. This thing, in Indonesia.

I made two more with the Nikon....different setting, I think they may be little better...I had also slept. these will be the last I will upload.

I appreciate all yr help from minute one.....very, very much. Tho that should have been obvious, also from minute one.