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#1 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:41:13 AM(UTC)
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Original thread including this, The Glob rug, insane and convoluted, so I felt we should crisp this up. I just received this from Daniel, the NJ vendor who offers the Glob Rug which is in some DC warehouse, apparently:

Hi, here is the image - the rug is at a different location (our warehouse in DC) and this is the photo they sent me.. I hope its the right rug.. :-) -Daniel

I too hope this is the Glob Rug, obviously; I think it might be, given the colors. But, I had hard time counting. I also do not see any wefts. Now I learned sometimes they are buried. But it still creeps me out. Actually, I do see a trace of weft below the ruler and they are perpendicular to it. I think they were in a hurry and just put the ruler parallel to the selvedges. I ASSUME.

Also.....cause there wasn't a full image of an inch above their ruler....I hadda count half inch's worth vertically and double it. I get 14 on the vertical (U must double what I marked) and, I think 10 on the horizontal, but I am NOT SURE re the horizontal count. Looking at the knots South side of the ruler, the horizontal appears to be 12. If so, total would be 168.

Link to the Indo Kashan Glob Rug: http://rover.ebay.com/ro...9&mtid=824&kw=lg

They list it as 225 KPSI. but if it's 168, it ain no biggie. Plus it is clearly double knotted.

for an item costing close to 1K....U would think they would provide the basics going in, right? I mean, it's not broccoli, OK?

I will await, and, as always, cherish...I feedback.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:00:14 PM(UTC)
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11x11 = 121. Half of what they stated. Not double knotted. I think i mentioned double knotted in another post. double knotted usually refers to a jufti knot tied around 4 warps rather than two - splits weaving time in half and aren't as durable. they have a different construction.

Looks nice from the back tho. seems like a very fair price from the pics
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#3 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:04:20 PM(UTC)
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RugPro wrote:
11x11 = 121. Half of what they stated. Not double knotted. I think i mentioned double knotted in another post. double knotted usually refers to a jufti knot tied around 4 warps rather than two - splits weaving time in half and aren't as durable. they have a different construction.

Looks nice from the back tho. seems like a very fair price from the pics


OK wait! U must DOUBLE THE BLUE DOTS VERTICALLY. U get 14,, no? AND PLS LOOK AT THE KNOTS BELOW THE RULER, where they are dark. Do you not get 12? I wil remark it.

It is NOT DOUBLE KNOTTED? OMG, how come I can't see that?????
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I remarked in red. Pls see below ruler. I think on the horizontal it is at least 11, possibly 12, no? and I circled a knot, does this not look like a double knot in red above?

"Very fair price, looks nice from back".....you are are in luv with 18"GLOBS, Ok? lol
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The photo is sideways. The rug has pretty much square knots, although vertically, WITH the ruler, I count 11 knots. The area you marked didn't have clearly defined knots.

keep in mind, the vertical with this knot is slightly "shorter" of a knot, which means the horizontal may have one less knot per inch. However, I think it's fair to say this is 11x11.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:13:47 PM(UTC)
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RugPro wrote:
The photo is sideways. The rug has pretty much square knots, although vertically, WITH the ruler, I count 11 knots. The area you marked didn't have clearly defined knots.

keep in mind, the vertical with this knot is slightly "shorter" of a knot, which means the horizontal may have one less knot per inch. However, I think it's fair to say this is 11x11.



OK wait......cause their image above the ruler could not be scaled to an inch....I hadda do it HALF AN INCH, or, blown up on my screen, 2 1/2" cause they did not show 5" which in this is an inch.. So I get 7=half an inch and we double that. Wut am I missing here?
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K....I obviously defer.....cept yr yellows are outta control, OK? At least mine are neat. lol Are U sure it is not double knotted????
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pls see below: are the three entities I circled in white not INDIVIDUAL KNOTS? Which appear to be double knots? This image is not sharp! I do notice the wool seems to have a nice sheen tho.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:34:03 PM(UTC)
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RugPro wrote:
2 ply yarn, not a double knot. A double knot implies construction. this knot has double ply.

my yellow was NOT outta control. ha. the blue is hideous on my glob rug


I know,,,,yr yellows meander with no need to line up. This reflects yr expertise. Mine are regimented out of neophyte insecurity. That is a fact. But truly, are not wut I circled in white individual double knots? Or (K) Not???


Next, I read new threads here; you LIKE BLUE!!!!!!!! My blue is the exact blue in that rug belonging to sophisticated guy who asks esoteric questions.... you said you LIKED.....that blue. The guy who is married to an insatiable 5 figure lusting rug woman.
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Jilly wrote:
But truly, are not wut I circled in white individual double knots? Or (K) Not???


Next, I read new threads here; you LIKE BLUE!!!!!!!! My blue is the exact blue in that rug belonging to sophisticated guy who asks esoteric questions.... you said you LIKED.....that blue. The guy who is married to an insatiable 5 figure lusting rug woman.



Sick I do like blue.

Take a look at this link

http://www.rugrag.com/post/Yarn-Ply.aspx

They don't call them double knots, they call it double yarn ply
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Jilly wrote:
But truly, are not wut I circled in white individual double knots? Or (K) Not???


Next, I read new threads here; you LIKE BLUE!!!!!!!! My blue is the exact blue in that rug belonging to sophisticated guy who asks esoteric questions.... you said you LIKED.....that blue. The guy who is married to an insatiable 5 figure lusting rug woman.



Sick I do like blue.

Take a look at this link

http://www.rugrag.com/post/Yarn-Ply.aspx

They don't call them double knots, they call it double yarn ply


First, in FX, the link does not work. but, I tottaly believe you... another piece of evidence I am in waaaay ovah my head. I thought I had the counting down.....but I was missing nuclear wool data. I am hopeless. But at least with integrity. Unlike NANCY. And I hope that rug gets moth larvae, OK? That woman does not deserve a rug that beautiful in her inventory.
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link works for me. anyway, is nancy the one with the chinese rug?
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#12 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:02:46 PM(UTC)
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RugPro wrote:
link works for me. anyway, is nancy the one with the chinese rug?


Yes, that---the gorgeous Chinese rug-- is Nefarious Nancy wit da ski mask and da Uzi. I have big wound form Nancy and defend against it now by hating her. Soon she will be in leg irons in perp walk on CNN. I will know her immediately.

This pain and anger is justified. But that is very uncommon, very amazing rug I think. In the inventory of an entirely common human. Humans, plural.

I am waiting for image of underside of MA Sarouk....I posted in the thread addressing that rug, the U Nevah Know thread. And I completely know U are right about the wool and the knots of the Glob Rug....I just have too much to learn in this stuff.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:10:01 PM(UTC)
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I must go back to zero....the drawing board. I thought I could see and count knots. I was wrong. Out of curiosity, is my ugly garbage rug double or single knotted? To me it looks like single knots, single ply, right? But now I just do not know (below)

Wait! Link works now via above quote! I like the single knot TRIPLE PLY.

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