Yet agian, I find myself at another unexpected & challening juncture in this arduous, protracted but hardly not interesting Rug Hunt I thought would take a week.

I needed to feel....simply from exhaustion, that that new Sarouk for around $1,100 with the navy border and the too dense floral cluster in the field, but good KPSI, maybe Kork, maybe Crock......was My Rug. It's the line from Godfather III (I have Trilogy box set on DVD), where Pacino, before he collapses is like, "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back IN." All human wisdom is in the Godfathers, OK? lol

First, I finally noticed those neo sarouks openly listed as Indo....often have much nicer field details than those stated as being made in Iran. These Indo field details still do not reflect the floral angulation of the original ones like mine.....but it is far more lyrical and a kinda genre of its own, and I find it more aesthetically pleasing. I will upload an example below and then again the "Iranian" one I thought was My Rug.

Next, given I see I have strong bias against Indo reproductions-I was raised to believe Persian rugs are the only way to go, and I thought my parents were not only different from other parents (they were), but also nuts (Mea Culpa)-tho Joe Nevo, who is very smart man, once mailed me something to the contrary re Indo rugs being inferior....and I now feel this bias needs examining (all biases do if they are arbitrary and absent all the accurate info). Ponder how many terrible rugs actually made in Iran now are all over the place & are pathetic!!!!! Seconds, as Pro says, with color run, ghastly colors, designs and badly made, etc.

NEW CANNA WORMS THIS IS.

In this tangential issue which presented, I came upon this:

http://www.xr.by/sarouk-rug-pattern.html
I BELIEVE THIS GUY.

Now, someone has told me the neo Sarouks are often tea washed. I know from here, that is to be avoided. Also, that one can detemine this to some degree, by comparing the underside colors of a given rug to the pile colors. Note in what I will upload below....example of Indo Sarouk, the colors match. i now observe, on some of those listed as made in Iran, they do not. Match.

U can not trust any of these people, OK? Pro is right. U must do all the homework yourself, harvest the gifts from people here and ARRIVE AT DIFFERENTIAL ACUITY ON YOUR OWN. We all know ignorance is not, in fact, bliss, it is HELL, OK? but in trying to buy a half way decent hand knotted rug you like & can afford....the hell of ignorance is OFF THE CHARTS.

Pls see below; what uploaded as a jpeg link is the typical Indo type field detail; image below the typicla field detail of one ostensibly made in Iran. See the difference? It is significant. I will also upload the underside of the Indo Sarouk in which it appears no tea washing has been done. This too. uploaded as a jpeg link.

I really, really, really like this rug. It is Indo.http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574716523&toolid=10001&campid=5336111917&customid=Forum&icep_item=370089204510&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

I am now delving into Indo as we know. i am no longer sure if any neo Sarouks are really made in Iran at all. Or, if they are, may not be fissionable material. Kidding. I just mailed them if this, or one very close, might be available in a larger size, and asked to see underside with ruler, etc. If so & it meets my new criteria.....all evolved cause I found this site, I think it will be worth what they want....maybe $1,200 around.

Nobody throw up, please, nothing I can afford will even approach mine, it's SIMPLE; and among the neos, I am veering toward the indos, and this one feels little more like mine cept for lots of things. I like the field detiails tor a new one; field color not like mine but I like it; I will await feedback on details and hopefully bigger size. I now get this new conviction will last for maybe 4 hours tops. Then more data and confusion will arrive.

I also like one new one at that reputable, formidable, I just learned here... local rug importer. But I fear the price. We shall see.

Another real Time post: received just now from Nancy at the Masterpiece (yeah, right?0 vendor in response to my recent questions about two of their Indo Saoruks:

Dear ariesjill,

Hi Jill, thanks for your email and interest on this great rug. This is a quality rug higher than most other ordinary rugs finer then Persian Sarouk*. The rug is already packed without having more pictures however if you insist on extra pictures we will be happy doing it at charge of $15 which you may apply toward purchasing of the rug.
The rug is wased normal without tea wash.

Best wishes / Nancy

- masterpieces1
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I replied, just tell me how to send it and I will. (The money for the image wit da rule so I can COUNT.) * My bold, not her's cause yet aother possible confirmation that the newly made Indo Sarouks may indeed be superior to those form Iran (or not really, who can know??!!).
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In response to can I come see these, I am right here????:

Dear ariesjill,

Sorry we do not have any showroom to welcome you.

- masterpieces1

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I followed up with this on the one I like best;

Nancy! did U get my query about this one? re can you get it in larger size? http://rover.ebay.com/ro...9&mtid=824&kw=lg

Again, I will be happy to pay for image of underside with rule, pls let me know!

Jill

It's a really nice looking piece. Shipping is a litle high, but they may have allocated some of the money from the cost of the item into shipping to keep price low. is the 6x8 size good for you?

On the other hand; http://rover.ebay.com/ro...9&mtid=824&kw=lg
Nobody tell me this THEY posted as early 20th C sarouk is wut they say. Look at the FRINGES. Look at the field color. But it is interesting.
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THEN, we have this from them for 10K.
http://cgi.ebay.com/19th..._trksidZp1713.m153.l1262

Does not resemble anything I have ever seen re antique Sarouks. Tho how would I know???? But I am now outta the antique sarouk quicksand-minefield.....wherein too many variables if U can not see the rug, and anything decent I can't afford.

Ok I am newly onfused now and sad. Now, these people also offer this in right size at least: http://rover.ebay.com/ro...9&mtid=824&kw=lg

Can you see it is way lower than the one I adore on the fabulous scale? Colors (tepid field color), field detail (little puerile), border? I do not love this rug. It does not make my heart leap. The too small one does. MAKES MY HEART LEAP. But maybe it is the best I can do. Bet it also has higher than 120 kpsi. But who cares if U don LUV IT???