welcome to the forum. we cant really say what the exact value of something is unless seeing it in person, but what rug specifically are you referring to?

hmm, to me this looks pakistani or chinese. how large is it and how much is the seller asking

where are you located? They didn't cite country of origin?

It is not turkish to my eye. That's about the last origin I would attribute this. I'm not sure where these rug is being sold, but from my experience, this is a very high price. It looks to me to be either Chinese or Pakistani. I'm leaning toward Pakistani by weave, and chinese by design. both may sometimes have similar characteristics.

Either way, given what i have seen from the photographs and the size stated, it appears that this price is highly inflated. Given the seller does not seem to provide accurate information about the rug, and the price seeming to be higher than fair retail market value, i would stay away.

You mentioned on one of the other rugs that a friend mentioned the rug was Indian. Has this person mentioned anything about "ballpark?"


Usually I would not give a ballpark, but given this seems like an unfortunate situation, I would be willing to do so provided you agree to the following

- Any "values" I would place on a rug are is just my opinion, and my opinion only.
- An accurate assessment should be made in person to properly evaluate and assign "value."
- estimates for each rug are providing they are in perfect condition with no problems.
- price ranges are not to be used for anything outside of being a point of negotiating reference. don't take them for actual values, or other

If you would like more accurate info, i highly suggest waiting to act before consulting with others in the field.

is the above okay with you?

From my experience, I feel somewhat comfortable calling this a 160 line Chinese rug although as stated before, it could be a Pakistani weave I somewhat doubt it now a bit.

Before going much further, I just want to paint a little clearer of a picture of what Rug Rag uses for terminology. This is somewhat subjective in the industry, but without going into too much detail....

sellers and department stores often put highly inflated prices on tags and call them "retail value." generally speaking Rug Rag figures these to more often than not be closer to a "replacement value" rather than a "retail value" although those in the industry may differ somewhat.

I've been instructed to go by what's called "fair retail market value" which is the price of an item after sales discounts and negotiations are done. A Fair Price for a Retail Location. People play with numbers too much, and it's insulting to reputable sellers.

Another problem with assigning value to some of these newer rugs has a great deal to do with the fluctuating dollar value, labor rates, and costs of materials. I've been out of the business myself sometime now, although I do keep up with things, they do change frequently. Prices also have a lot to do with location. A rug found at ABC new york is more often than not going to sell at a higher average price than a rug in more remote areas.

Bottom line, in my opinion, fair retail market value for a rug like this would be in the vicinity $600-950 in new condition. Of course if the retailer is having some spectacular sale, this could be lower, or it could be higher too. I have seen these on the internet for more than this marked price, so I'm sure there are and have been people who pay significantly more.

As for the quality, it's tough to say whether it's good, average, above average, etc. a lot of this has to do with the wool. The wool doesn't look spectacular like a kurk wool or other, but it doesn't appear to be dead wool. You can't say too much about the feel of the wool from photographs, but it seems like this is a decent quality rug overall.

The assumption that a finer rug would generally be made with better fibers is not a bad one, but there are exceptions.

I have seen some unbelievable quality wool in 56 KPSI rugs, and mohair used for 100 kpsi. Also have seen 250 kpsi rugs made with wool that was horrible: dry and crispy.

In some cases, the use of inferior wool may be the only choice of the weaver. Certainly it's harder to work with , but somehow coarse weaving materials make it into a surprising number of rugs



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