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Why I Will Now Bid on This
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#1 Posted : Sunday, February 1, 2009 4:29:04 PM(UTC)
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I have returned however briefly.
[sorry! I initially pasted dysfunctional link, i saw, fixed it.]

I am moved to bid on this in next coupla hours for following reasons:

1) Re another thread, I decided not even to go see the new local Sarouk; I hate the colors, the opaque lipstick red makes me vomit; even the blue nearly does; in blowups I already see serious conditin issues.....yet again,, compared with my former rug, its presence would be an ongoing reminder of Very Painful Things. It would be MASOCHISTIC.

1a) I have come to.....for the above reasons, I must abandon vintage "American Sarouks altogether. No way could I get anything not painful for me for 2K or under, no way. The original premise of my hunt was entirely flawed for these reasons.

2) this rug lacks a little passion, but it's pretty, with nice oclors and overall harmony of essence and design.

3) It's new but at least that precludes the condition variables-murkies-traps of the not new....which, within my budget, also means not old and beautifully made.

4) I generally do not like the diamond elements of the Heriz's......but I am fast learner and think this is made in AHAR AND JUST CALLED an Heriz.
Cause it has all the curvilinear elements indigenous to those, OK?

5) While one place says low end ones and I am sure this is one, start a $4 per square foot.....and this, now at $309, is already above that, I also see rugs from this region on say Rugman all for over 1K.

6) I think, given it is an ebay rug....it is at least a little special. Also a little small but I am a little tired. HA HAH.

7) From another thread re the Mashad in NC, I like it, it's too big...but mainly, I, Jill intuit it will arrive with condition issues which will lead to my death by my own hand. lol. I have V good instincts. Nobody tell ME COLOR RUN (as opposed to abrash) results form WASHING. That is wut he said ON THE PHONE. I should haVe said "Really? Aniline THIS!" hahahahahahah Ho.

8) I will, when the Amy Winehouse rug arrives, it is now impending, if I end up with this....mate this one with it and end up with something I really like.

http://rover.ebay.com/ro...9&mtid=824&kw=lg ) I found an Ahar online, sold on ebay coupla years ago. It was to die for. Vendor no longer on eBay. So what? Sew buttons. LOL


PS. I am little boggled by not being able to see normal, consistent, visible weft rows on underside, but not in person is not in person and auction will soon close.
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At least two dealers interested in this one. Cept dealers bid on rugs I would pay not to have in sight. I am sure they know the tastes of their respective clientbases and those vary.

The now most recent bidder, "private," I see, bids on 'paper money and coins." He is Bernie Madoff. U think U can fool a Corleone?
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#2 Posted : Sunday, February 1, 2009 6:23:18 PM(UTC)
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#3 Posted : Sunday, February 1, 2009 6:27:59 PM(UTC)
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I am....pls see title. I always do wut I say I am going to do. title don say I THINK I am (as per Descartes); says I AM. It is now up to 369. I need a small Uzi. lol


I just started and must now follow. But U think its where I think it's from?


MAKE THEM STOP BIDDING!!!!!!


cUUUUZZZE Me, This is Jilly Rug.....everyone else, pls move ON, OK?????


Rats. I just could not snipe fast enuff,. U think I missed out bigtime? I liked it. Observe I said I will now bid on this. Did not say I would get it.
I have good eye. but I am ot a good sniper. In any life arena.. It was special. Given, that is, what appears on ebay. I wanted it.

I mean I bid 650, someone got it for 670. I must now kill this person. hahahahahah At least I am laughing. but only on the outside.


43 bids. most atypical for rugs on ebay. I got rattled at the end. I am not exactly a chilled out little human. Norrrrr.....would iI wanna B should I have a choice! This is why I got fired from the Secret Service where I was Guarding my Obamababe. I kept dancing and hugging him. Was that so wrong???? lol Plus the ear thingy and the wire really annoyed me, OK? What kinda ipod was that?

I am sad. I have uber rug SADNESS. (Not at all Like Berber rug sadness. That is from Ozarks.)

Liked it the second saw it....wit its subtle pallette and curvilinear field coRners ETHEREAL fabuloussness....so not T-Square Heriz. but I thought nobody else would notice. Apparently....they noticed.

I can not legislate passion. Nor would I wanna. Why WOULD ANYONE???? chemistry is either there or it is not. Chemistry is unfathomable by conventional means but ....it reverberates palpably. Trying to hide that.....I think may be good for commerce, but not so hot for actual life.

Now WHERE IS this person who got this rug, and will I get thru SECURITY AT JFK????? lol

I would like some input on what this puppy went for and how it comported with its value. Also some specifics re if my research produced accurate data or not,. ALSO opinions, if I may. Tho I knew I woold bid n it minute I saw it----hours before I decided to post here-- and I only started, as usual, 20 mins before end. I learn even during sadness and always want to.

Thank U.

I can never look at this rug again Cause when I click on it, I get the sorry U were outbid thingy. Twenty dollars outbid. I think my mother did this from the grave, OK? And who can blame her? Sigh smilie.

Sadiists:

Sorry, you were outbid at the last minute. This item sold for US $670.00.
Like I don know, OK?

NOW....I see TWO snipers were there at the very end!!

l***t( 1 ) US $670.00
Feb-01-09 20:43:15 PST

n***l( 30Feedback score is 10 to 49) US $660.00
Feb-01-09 20:42:49 PST

ariesjill( 133Feedback score is 100 to 499) US $650.00
Feb-01-09 20:42:29 PST

n***l( 30Feedback score is 10 to 49) US $641.89
Feb-01-09 20:42:45 PST

n***l( 30Feedback score is 10 to 49) US $621.89
Feb-01-09 20:42:07 PST

ariesjill( 133Feedback score is 100 to 499) US $611.89
Feb-01-09 20:41:57 PST

n***l( 30Feedback score is 10 to 49) US $611.78
Feb-01-09 20:42:01 PST

ariesjill( 133Feedback score is 100 to 499) US $601.89
Feb-01-09 20:41:21 PST

n***l( 30Feedback score is 10 to 49)

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#4 Posted : Sunday, February 1, 2009 8:36:58 PM(UTC)
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Don't worry, there are a lot out there and heres a very similar one

has some time left on it.



You may still get a second chance offer, but keep your eyes out for similar ones like the one I posted

Why the rug went for what it did.... I don't know. Perhaps good color, decent size, okay contrast... The rug had been washed, I do think it appears to be as they say it's from: Iran, likely a Heriz type carpet. If you ever have questions about what something is worth from any specific seller, look out for their key terms. This is ECG, you can go into completed items and search "ecg" as they use that in all titles, and type in "Heriz." This should give a fairly good indication of what things of similar type have sold for, although you may have to do some sorting.

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#5 Posted : Sunday, February 1, 2009 8:41:23 PM(UTC)
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RugPro wrote:
Don't worry, there are a lot out there and heres a very similar one

has some time left on it.



You may still get a second chance offer, but keep your eyes out for similar ones like the one I posted

Why the rug went for what it did.... I don't know. Perhaps good color, decent size, okay contrast... The rug had been washed, I do think it appears to be as they say it's from: Iran, likely a Heriz type carpet. If you ever have questions about what something is worth from any specific seller, look out for their key terms. This is ECG, you can go into completed items and search "ecg" as they use that in all titles, and type in "Heriz." This should give a fairly good indication of what things of similar type have sold for, although you may have to do some sorting.



So I should stop crying?
U think it went for what it did....cause 3 of us kept upping our max bids? Should those not reflect some INHERENT VALUE? I mean, I WAS JUST OUTTA CONTROL, but how about the others?
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Well, I am entirely touched you went and looked and found something kindred a llitle. I mean it. The new one, for me, does not meet the subtle but discernible "personality" standard. It is a better size, but while the one I wanted was little small.....I dragged my steel tape around the room carefully and ended up not caring it was little small.

Pls compare the field corner details. Not even in same ballpark. the one that got away was exceptional in this....and overall essence I felt.

Please then, as per below, now regard the corner detail of the one someone snipped from under my yearning feet as it were, versus the corner detaill of the one you were kind enough to unearth:
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I did not look back all the way for the history of bidding, but what I can say is that a 10% jump in the last 2 minutes is nominal comparatively speaking
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#7 Posted : Sunday, February 1, 2009 9:02:36 PM(UTC)
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RugPro wrote:
I did not look back all the way for the history of bidding, but what I can say is that a 10% jump in the last 2 minutes is nominal comparatively speaking


I din know this. But when I first saw it and knew I would bid on it, it was $309. Early in the day. I knew it would go much higher......but it is still uncommon for a no reserve rug on ebay to receive 43 bids. According, that is, to what I have seen in the short time I have been looking.

And, since I started during the last 15 mins, as was my plan.....I can tell you the end part was insane. Only reason I din get it is cause I could not up my max bid fast enuff final time in last couple seconds. I got nervous. The winner was just calmer than I.

Do you think it was worth what it went for? Or my last bid of $650? I did. Obviously. But I am novice.


Unrelatedly, I can no longer download image links here. You acn not activate them.. and I mean from threads I looked at earlier as well as what I just did above. Bonnie told me earlier she was having his issue and asked if I were as well?

I am using Firefox and allowing all this page.
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I know they made an upgrade to the forum, it may take some time for the bugs to work out. I have not had problems myself using firefox, but I'll mention it to them.

As to whether or not the rug is worth it is tough to say. i think there's a price ceiling on goods like these given what they are: they're seconds goods, often with color run, blotchy tones, heavy chemical washes, fading, lower grade dyes, sometimes worn uneven, worn at all, etc.... I think even if they have full pile, $8 to $10 per sq./ft would be at the very high end of a sight unseen eBay rug of this type, merging into the mid-range realm of a "brick and mortar" store. The seller doesn't even show the whole rug, and their descriptions are vague and misleading. I think this says a lot about who they are, and the item they represent.

If you love the rug and are willing to pay above what would be a market price, I guess that would be up to your investment and design criteria based on what you've seen. Again, I think getting into just double this price range, you can get 4 times better a rug. That's just my feeling, it would take time to keep an eye out, so that's something to consider as well.
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RugPro wrote:
I know they made an upgrade to the forum, it may take some time for the bugs to work out. I have not had problems myself using firefox, but I'll mention it to them.

As to whether or not the rug is worth it is tough to say. i think there's a price ceiling on goods like these given what they are: they're seconds goods, often with color run, blotchy tones, heavy chemical washes, fading, lower grade dyes, sometimes worn uneven, worn at all, etc.... I think even if they have full pile, $8 to $10 per sq./ft would be at the very high end of a sight unseen eBay rug of this type, merging into the mid-range realm of a "brick and mortar" store. The seller doesn't even show the whole rug, and their descriptions are vague and misleading. I think this says a lot about who they are, and the item they represent.

If you love the rug and are willing to pay above what would be a market price, I guess that would be up to your investment and design criteria based on what you've seen. Again, I think getting into just double this price range, you can get 4 times better a rug. That's just my feeling, it would take time to keep an eye out, so that's something to consider as well.



Yes, bugs. Bonnie alerted me and I think she uses IE. then, I followed up and had the same issue.

Pls note, if U read the thread,d this is a new rug. I made a point, with numbers in the margin, to delineate precisely why I was wanting this rug. I even emailed the vendor ust now... just in case the winning bidder's PayPal should fall down, pls let me know ASAP. But given wut I get from tha person, I know it won't.

I think you are not clear on... or, more probably, do not rleate to why I liked it and wanted it, and that is just fine. I saw the winning bidder made an early bid and then swept in in the final second or so. But other underbidders were involved at the top as well. Bet it's nicer than you think.

I have now seen what is available for around $1,200 plus... ostensibly older and ORIGINALLY, more wonderfully made rugs.....and, so far, I have not seen one I would even allow into my apartment. Certainly including the Sarouk Midtown, I know U said it is pretty.....but taste is very subjective. I addressed this as well in my initial post in this thread.

And were that one a quarter as nice as mine was, forget i he shape mine was.....a dealer would have given him his $1,200 days ago.

I would far rather get something I really, really like which may not last forever---than get something I did not really like, or with the inevitable condtion issues within the pricerange U allude to, which might last longer.

Something the beauty & quality & condition of my rug, I could NO WAY get for under several thousand, I have learned in intensity of focus of late.

Not everyone who bid on that rug was an idiot. I looked at it dozens of times...over time....between other life events....until I was clear I wanted it.

Re "market value," again, I saw at least two dealer in the auction. How high they went another story, I do not know. And yes, I now know much more about the vicissitudes of trying to find a persian rug U luv on ebay.

Perhaps The Rug God was protecting me. I will nevah know, but would like to.
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