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Mohajaran Sarouk??
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#1 Posted : Saturday, March 7, 2015 12:09:53 AM(UTC)
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Hi everyone,
I saw this run today and took these pics at an estate sale of an older couple who had traveled extensively in the Mid East. It is in very good condition with no worn areas and very clean. Can this be a Mohajaran Sarouk??? Is it 1920's. I would like to be able to recognize one of these. Thanks!!!
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#2 Posted : Sunday, March 8, 2015 7:28:21 PM(UTC)
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This is definitely a Sarouk. It is unpainted with a maroon dye, so it is either imported from Europe, or simply never "painted". There are three elements to differentiating between a Sarouk and a Sarouk Mahajeran. One is the more open design, often with a background of dark blue. This rug appears to have a standard floral pattern. Second is the weave is unusually tight, orderly and a higher knot count of 144 kpsi. This appears to have a lower kpsi of 110. Third, is the presence of kork wool as pile. It should feel finer and softer than ordinary Sarouk wool.

Base on the first two, I think this is not a Mohajeran.
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cartona on 3/10/2015(UTC)
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:59:02 AM(UTC)
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NMiesen,
Thanks for this detailed reply. Your comment said it was probably imported from Europe and not painted-- is this because you think it was not painted for the American Sarouk market, but made for the European market at the same time so it is of similar age.. 1920's- 1930's? Please note, its color is not maroon, but more of a rosy red with orangey hints. It would be better if I could take a picture outdoors, but we still have 2 feet of snow outside and there's no taking it outside to see the colors pop. I've added some additional pics taken inside of pile that shows these colors. Does anyone else have any opinion??

Thanks!

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#4 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2015 1:13:23 PM(UTC)
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In the 1920s/30s it was common to take imported Hamadans and Sarouks from the Arak region of Persia and first bleach them with carbolic acid and then "paint" the rug with maroon or red dye. The most common starting color is a darkish pink, usually in the main background. Rugs were bleached into the 40s and possibly early 50s before the added labor cost became too expensive to justify. European Sarouks were sent to directly to Europe and were never painted.

If the back of the rug is a dusty rose color and the front is a darker red/maroon, then the rug has been painted. This helps to date it to the 20s/30s and into the 40s at times. Often the painted areas are blotchy or streaked into nearby colors, making whites a red color. So, I believe this rug is a 1930s Sarouk, but not a Mohajeran Sarouk, which are rare.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2015 4:44:45 PM(UTC)
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That is a beautiful rug. I hope you were able to get it.
On the subject of Sarouk rugs, here is a link with some insight on Sarouks in general and Mohajeran Sarouks in particular:
http://www.internetrugs....arouk-type-persian-rugs/
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cartona on 3/11/2015(UTC)
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:09:27 PM(UTC)
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Cuzinbruce,
Thanks for the helpful link and your comments. I did purchase the carpet and may be able to take a picture of it outside tomorrow as a lot of the snow is beginning to recede. Thanks for that great link!!-- Its very informative and very similar to RugRag's home page that describes the evolution and transition of the early Persian Sarouks to the early 20th century advent of the Americab Sarouk. The rug I purchased has a rosy red ground shade which is derived form the madder root, called ronas (Farsi). From my research, the larger rugs were made with the rosy red color and the smaller, dozar sizes were often made with the blue... bur not always. I am still doing some research.

Nmiesen,
Thanks for your feedback. This rug is not painted and has a rosy red background, not maroon dyed which appears to be from Madder Red. The KPSI is @ 120 KPSI using a ruler. The design of willow tree floral sprays with the rosy red background is often used for the larger Sarouks and the Blue for the smaller ones. I am still seeking more information as to whether this is a Mohajaran from the 1920's or earlier.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:20:30 PM(UTC)
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This is a good piece. The prices of these rugs are very undervalued right now. The last 3-5 years the average example is considerably lower in price, although the very fine pieces continue to have strength
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cartona on 3/11/2015(UTC)
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#8 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 10:58:38 AM(UTC)
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It is a rug that was made for the US market but probably never arrived there at the beginning. It has no US wash and was not painted. This makes it a more interesting piece in my eyes than most rugs available. Sometimes you find rugs like this one in Europe or Iran. It is not a Mohajeran due to quality and design, but still a very beautiful rug.
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#9 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 11:11:53 AM(UTC)
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Thanks KAD,
Thanks all,
What do you think it's age is?
Thanks a lot!! Where can I see a real Mahajaran Sarouk??
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#10 Posted : Saturday, March 14, 2015 8:55:26 PM(UTC)
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