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#1 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:17:11 PM(UTC)
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Thick pile clearly hand-woven wool Antique (Persian?) carpet 10ft x 8ft.
Beautiful flower motif, bright colors, clean and in excellent condition.
Hand-tied tassels are frayed :(

Family heirloom, this piece is from my grandfather's estate.
He was a member of the Mayflower Society & extended descendant of President James Garfield by means of the Ballou family.
Unfortunately my specific knowledge of this piece is limited.

Pictures depict front and back side fold over..
All colors are vibrant.

Seeking identification of kind, age and value.
Thank you kindly.

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#2 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:41:56 PM(UTC)
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This appears to be Persian, either Sarouk or a fine Kazvin. In the 1950's-1960's they looked very similar.
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#3 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:29:46 PM(UTC)
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Thank you rug pro, this is the first insight into what this beautiful piece is, thank you for the info, much appreciated.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, August 31, 2014 1:16:33 PM(UTC)
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It's a pretty Saruk and I agree with Rugpro about the age.
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#5 Posted : Monday, September 1, 2014 12:09:59 PM(UTC)
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Thank you Sahrafi & Rug Pro .
After looking at countless comparable rugs I'd have to agree.
Is there any chance that the pattern in my rug could be a bit busier than the circa 1950-1960 rugs.
My wife thinks the pattern may be more in-line with the 1930-1939 carpets. javascript:insertsmiley('Silenced%20','/forum/Images/Emoticons/eusa_silenced.gif')
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#6 Posted : Monday, September 1, 2014 2:34:39 PM(UTC)
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We don't encounter this too often but there is a strikingly similar rug on ebay right now, same size, similar design

http://rover.ebay.com/ro...9&mtid=824&kw=lg
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 2, 2014 1:08:22 PM(UTC)
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That is our rug. We saw another Sarouk 8x10 for sale and used the "have one like it" link to list the rug.
Ebay auto-filled the header. As it was a 3 day listing their system would not allow header edits.
Today I took a detailed set of new pictures using the guidelines on the Rug Rag site for preferred authentication method.
The forum allowed me to add 3 photos to my original post and I will attempt to add the rest here.
The rug authenticator contact form appears to allow only one photo upload..
I am going to upload the new pictures to the Ebay listing unless there is a better way to get the new picture detail to the rug rag community.




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#8 Posted : Tuesday, September 2, 2014 1:37:27 PM(UTC)
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As you can see I figured out how too upload the photos!

The close-ups contain the truest depiction of the color scheme.
I counted 11 colors but, I cannot say for sure that I may have counted variations in the shade of the same color as in inconsistencies in the dye.
On the dark side the background/ field is ruby red and on the light side it hints to an unusual rust color.
The darkest blue can go as dark as looking black but, I think it is suppose to be blue
I included several shots of the back of the rug to show the color as well.
No visible wear, only a little from light, faint blooming you might call it.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, September 2, 2014 6:45:48 PM(UTC)
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you've done your homework to call it faint blooming! The provenance is interesting, although not as direct as a collector may hope for. This is a nice rug, a bit older than initially thought - I date this to 1940's perhaps. You have a few good things going here aside from condition if it is as you say - 1. medallion is attractive, unique for the type, and not particularly large. 2. field is covered (many medallion rugs are open field which are not currently as popular for the type) 3. the rug appears to have a fair amount of lime green or light green. This is a little more unusual shade as well. All in all, it is not a rare rug, but it has attributes that set it apart a little from the typical example.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, September 3, 2014 6:55:35 AM(UTC)
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RugPro wrote:
you've done your homework to call it faint blooming! The provenance is interesting, although not as direct as a collector may hope for. This is a nice rug, a bit older than initially thought - I date this to 1940's perhaps. You have a few good things going here aside from condition if it is as you say - 1. medallion is attractive, unique for the type, and not particularly large. 2. field is covered (many medallion rugs are open field which are not currently as popular for the type) 3. the rug appears to have a fair amount of lime green or light green. This is a little more unusual shade as well. All in all, it is not a rare rug, but it has attributes that set it apart a little from the typical example.











Thank you for the detailed assessment.
The lime greens you have noticed are not really true color- they appeared in a certain light when I tried to get a full shot of the rug although, the stitching on the back side reveals multiple shades of a green that is not as apparant on the top side so, maybe from a little fading,...
I appreciate your time and want to thank you.
I really need to sell this piece quickly.
I'm not looking for top dollar, just a fair price.

I have an upcoming surgery and am out of employment from the injury.
I had an offer for $1,400 on Craigslist but, I was unsure of its worth at the time and did not get back to him quick enough.
Any suggestions on where and at how much would make this rug move?
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, September 3, 2014 7:06:29 AM(UTC)
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FaFa wrote:
[quote=RugPro]you've done your homework to call it faint blooming! The provenance is interesting, although not as direct as a collector may hope for. This is a nice rug, a bit older than initially thought - I date this to 1940's perhaps. You have a few good things going here aside from condition if it is as you say - 1. medallion is attractive, unique for the type, and not particularly large. 2. field is covered (many medallion rugs are open field which are not currently as popular for the type) 3. the rug appears to have a fair amount of lime green or light green. This is a little more unusual shade as well. All in all, it is not a rare rug, but it has attributes that set it apart a little from the typical example.











Thank you for the detailed assessment.
The lime greens you have noticed are not really true color- they appeared in a certain light when I tried to get a full shot of the rug although, the stitching on the back side reveals multiple shades of a green that is not as apparant on the top side so, maybe from a little fading,...
I appreciate your time and want to thank you.
I really need to sell this piece quickly.
I'm not looking for top dollar, just a fair price.

I have an upcoming surgery and am out of employment from the injury.
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