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Persian Kashan? Please help with info and value...
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#1 Posted : Friday, August 3, 2012 1:15:50 PM(UTC)
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I personally purchased this rug from an individual in Herat, Afghanistan while I was in the country in 2005... Absolutely pristine. The pictures do not convey the vibrant colors and quality. Rug is 4'8" x 7'3". Had it professionally cleaned several years back by a rug dealer. He was very enthusiastic about it and wanted to buy it very much. It has been in storage ever since. Can you possibly give me some background info and approx. value? I paid $800, and the man I bought it from acted as if I was stealing it from him...:-) Thanks for your help















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KAD Offline
#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:36:10 AM(UTC)
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Kashan is correct. Rug was made around 20 - 30 years ago. It is wool with silk highlights. It is in rather poor condition for its age, pile in the middle of the rug is almost gome to foundation - this is where the white dots come from on the pictures. Personally I think you payed to much if you bought it in this condition.
Art Oriental - Djoharian fine oriental rug, since 1967
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#3 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 6:27:12 AM(UTC)
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Don't know if that's wear or (I'd have thought more likely) repairs to the warp strings that have broken meaning white knots show through the carpet. Still, not what you'd like to see. Apart from that it's a nice, fairly fine rug.
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#4 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:51:31 PM(UTC)
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There is no wear... I was told the white threads were silk highlights... I brought this to a very reputable dealer this week in Louisiana, and he cleaned and officially appraised it at $6,500... Is this really out of line? I have no idea?

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#5 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 7:03:57 PM(UTC)
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White knots surfacing? Warps may have been broken on the loom and brought back together. When they are tied back together, they surface as pile instead of being hidden.
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#6 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2012 3:56:34 AM(UTC)
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I marked the areas that show the white dots. This is usually a sign of worn pile.

If you make a rug, you first set the loom by attaching the warp - in this rugs case a fine cotton warp. The warp material is not endless, when the string ends it must be tied toghether with the next.

After the warp was attached to the loom, usually there is a kilim border made to stabalize the warps. On your rug this is the woven part that has no fringes.

After that the knotting starts. After one row of knots the weft (s) will be addad to the construction. In your rug there are 2 wefts in opposed direction worked into the rug. One is a thin blue cotton weft, one is a thick white cotton weft.

If the string ends, it is knotted togehter with the next. At the place where the thick white weft it tied together, there is no space for a wool knot. As long as the rug is new or in high pile condition, you will not see these white cotton knots since they are covered by wool. If the rug looses pile, it will show these cotton knots. This is not a problem of only your rug, it is very common on most rugs.

And from what I see on the pictures you posted this is the only senseful explenation I can give you about these white knots. If the pile would be ok, the knots would not show.
KAD attached the following image(s):
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Art Oriental - Djoharian fine oriental rug, since 1967
Ludwigstr. 21 97816 Lohr, Bavaria - Germany
https://www.the-rug-store.de
https://www.facebook.com...TeppicheArtOrientalGmbh
https://www.instagram.com/djoharian_collection/



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#7 Posted : Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:00:32 AM(UTC)
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What KAD has posted is true although I have seen a few rugs with a fairly good amount of pile that this has happened to. It's hard to tell from photos but it doesn't seem like this Kashan has particularly low pile. I don't know if it's just when the knots are unusually large when tying the warp strings...
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