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#1 Posted : Saturday, March 31, 2012 5:44:16 AM(UTC)
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Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone might be able to help me. My grandparents had these rugs which turned out to be pieces cut from a larger rug. They're handwoven wool, quite rough to the touch on the back. The pile on the front is almost gone but what's left feels much softer. They've basically worn down to nothing and are quite faded so I don't think they have any monetary value--but I love them. I had them cleaned and the color is much brighter. The company that cleaned them suggested they might be Mahal or Meshed but in researching those I never saw any similar patterns.

I'm attaching a photo of the back of one of them. The color is much brighter on the back and that's the side I'm going to leave up. I'd love to know anything about where and/or when they might be from. Any ideas, or any suggestions where I might search for more information?

Thank you!
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#2 Posted : Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:28:52 PM(UTC)
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It is hard to tell from the photo because it is so far away, but my guess is that this isn't pieces put together but rather a forme saddle bag opened up to lie flat.
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Peggy1 Offline
#3 Posted : Thursday, April 5, 2012 5:07:19 PM(UTC)
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Thank you! But I didn't explain myself well--the rug in that first photo is one of three rugs, all which have the same patterns so we think they were cut from a larger rug. The first photo rug definitely has two different weaving patterns, it hasn't been pieced together. I'm attaching a few more photos here, close-ups of the back and (what's left of) the front. Could they really be Persian? To be honest I had always assumed they were American-made. It wasn't until the cleaner said something that I thought I should try to do a some research.

Thanks again for any info!
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#4 Posted : Thursday, April 5, 2012 5:17:58 PM(UTC)
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And here are two more photos showing the wear on the front.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, April 5, 2012 5:48:13 PM(UTC)
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Hmm, having a bit of trouble uploading...let's see if I can upload the last photo.
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#6 Posted : Friday, April 6, 2012 1:23:38 PM(UTC)
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I'm having a bit of trouble opening the photos, do you think you could email them to me? My email is ruglady@jahannandsons.com. Thanks!!
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:48:03 PM(UTC)
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Beautiful rug. Dont let the experts tell you those arent worth anything. It looks pretty special. I had a rug that everyone said was something different when it's origin should have been obvious to a dealer. Sotheby's finally set the record straight for me and with research I found their assessment spot on. EVERYONE else was off and appraisals were all over the map. Not sure how much those guys will keep you in the dark on purpose. Keep the rugs :)
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#8 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2012 4:20:56 PM(UTC)
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It would take better photographs to say. This looks like a very beautiful older patchwork (appears to have machined binding? photos are unclear).

Value would be 'decorative value' which can be high for store owners providing this type of look consistently in the retail market. Value for what the piece is for short sale is a challenge, unless the patchwork can be proven as some very old undiscovered fragment which the chances are very remote. As it stands, decorative value only.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:08:05 PM(UTC)
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BKLZ wrote:
Dont let the experts tell you those arent worth anything. It looks pretty special. I had a rug that everyone said was something different when it's origin should have been obvious to a dealer. Sotheby's finally set the record straight for me and with research I found their assessment spot on. EVERYONE else was off and appraisals were all over the map. Not sure how much those guys will keep you in the dark on purpose. Keep the rugs :)


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